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    Something still tells me that Ciel would do better than Aoko against Flat Snark until the part where Aoko starts using the Fifth for more juice.

    But Solomon would just laugh it away, so yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Something still tells me that Ciel would do better than Aoko against Flat Snark until the part where Aoko starts using the Fifth for more juice.
    Wow, did the version of Mahoyo you got have choices or something?

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    Did I interpret the part where the game is all "look Aoko is a sorcerer so she can bulshit prana up and make the beam super strong because she has decided so even though it has been explained for a hundred pages now how this is her limit and she can't do it" as her bullshitting her way through it with sorcery wrong?

    I'm aware Aoko is not technically a sorcerer at that point, so it was weird.

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    She didn't use magic, no. She thought about it, but didn't in the end. She just beamu'd even harder.

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    I direct your attention to Shirou Emiya, who spends half a route being told that projecting a sword like Caliburn is beyond his limit and then proceeds to do so multiple times.

    It's, uh, sort of Nasu bread and butter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Did I interpret the part where the game is all "look Aoko is a sorcerer so she can bulshit prana up and make the beam super strong because she has decided so even though it has been explained for a hundred pages now how this is her limit and she can't do it" as her bullshitting her way through it with sorcery wrong?

    I'm aware Aoko is not technically a sorcerer at that point, so it was weird.
    Yes, it's wrong. All she did there was realize she was unconsciously holding back the whole time to avoid killing herself, and that if she wanted to win she'd have to truly commit to putting her life on the line, which let her come out on top.
    Or, "Ayy, fuck my limits let's beam harder."
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    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Or, "Ayy, fuck my limits let's beam harder."
    Something something protag modifier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Did I interpret the part where the game is all "look Aoko is a sorcerer so she can bulshit prana up and make the beam super strong because she has decided so even though it has been explained for a hundred pages now how this is her limit and she can't do it" as her bullshitting her way through it with sorcery wrong?

    I'm aware Aoko is not technically a sorcerer at that point, so it was weird.
    She was using a ton of prana from the environment. All she did it was charge up faster than Snark, with the whole "they were 80-20 but later they were 50-50 and later she won"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    Strongest magic user is probably one the Sisters tbh. One could destroy a continent in a single attack, and probably a casual one. The Gin that the A-Rays use as energy source also resulted in energy transfer far beyond anything previously possible on the planet. Something using prana as energy source is going to be hard pressed to compare.
    Nothing in the land of steel is human. Except Godo, and probably a few scattered remnants who also get the kind of processed food he had to take to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    Strongest magic user is probably one the Sisters tbh. One could destroy a continent in a single attack, and probably a casual one. The Gin that the A-Rays use as energy source also resulted in energy transfer far beyond anything previously possible on the planet. Something using prana as energy source is going to be hard pressed to compare.
    Are you sure about that?
    Continent destruction was mentioned twice in Notes: Western continent was incinerated when Type-Jupiter core exploded, and death cry of Judge (of Six Sisters) tore another one apart.

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    Then he has to fall back to being able to use all human magecraft, EX summoning, and hundreds of millions of Excaliburs.

    Woe is he.
    Well, he could overpower opponent by sheer force. The point is that he probably cannot seal magic system of non-human origin.
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    Well of course not, but that's irrelevant. Once again, the question was "Who's the strongest magus".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Yes, it's wrong. All she did there was realize she was unconsciously holding back the whole time to avoid killing herself, and that if she wanted to win she'd have to truly commit to putting her life on the line, which let her come out on top.
    Or, "Ayy, fuck my limits let's beam harder."
    It's the magical equivalent of mothers lifting cars off their trapped children or something.
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    i think anything about solomon's upper limit is still premature since we only have 1 of his 3 nps.

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    also he's in a grand container, who knows what he'd be like in a normie container.
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    i think anything about solomon's upper limit is still premature since we only have 1 of his 3 nps.

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    also he's in a grand container, who knows what he'd be like in a normie container.
    Maybe he'd not have space death lasers.

    Then again...
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Question regarding Chiron and Scatach.
    Was it specified what Skills are not included in Wisdom of Divine Gift/Haunts of Wisdom?

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    Chiron is limited to non-unique Greek things, as I recall.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blastedspider View Post
    Question regarding Chiron and Scatach.
    Was it specified what Skills are not included in Wisdom of Divine Gift/Haunts of Wisdom?
    definiton of what's not in it is fluid.
    The skills say you can't learn something characteristic of a heroic spirit, like Pioneer of the Stars.
    In Apo Mats for Divine Gift's entery, Chiron can't learn inherently non-greek mythology skills. So he can't learn chinese martial arts for instance.
    Haunts we don't know yet, probably be mentioned in Grand Order Materials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Scatch's will probably just be an Irish version of Chiron's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    Scatch's will probably just be an Irish version of Chiron's.
    her stuff she gained from being in the abyss though.
    unless you're trying to say ireland is an abyss.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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