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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    were there ever any servants who have miltac rank A?
    I don't think so.

    I can only recall B, C+, C

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    were there ever any servants who have miltac rank A?
    None as far as I know. Wonder who would be eligible? Only one I can think of is maybe Genghis Khan...

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    I do wonder what rank A would be like, though, if it exists. When the man widely considered the greatest military commander in history only has rank B...

    Maybe you have to be a commander in huge sci-fi star wars or something

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    Isn't Subotai considered one of the greatest generals who ever lived? Maybe he'd make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    I do wonder what rank A would be like, though, if it exists. When the man widely considered the greatest military commander in history only has rank B...

    Maybe you have to be a commander in huge sci-fi star wars or something
    Read somewhere that Iskandar's rank is only B because while he conquered all across the world, most of his kingdom fell apart soon after he died. Not sure how reliable this is (kingdoms falling apart after death sounds rather more like a leadership issue then tactics per-se) but if so then Genghis could easily have it at rank A, given he not only conquered tons but established a civilization which lasted centuries after his death.

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    was genghis khan ever considered best military commander

    i mean, i know iskander is widely regarded as the best ocmmander ever, but then in nasuverse Caesar and altera has same rating
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    Didn't Genghis' empire fragment into four separate empires extremely quickly and then most of those empires also fell before too much longer? And I know the Yuan dynasty and the Golden Horde were very unpopular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Read somewhere that Iskandar's rank is only B because while he conquered all across the world, most of his kingdom fell apart soon after he died. Not sure how reliable this is (kingdoms falling apart after death sounds rather more like a leadership issue then tactics per-se)
    I think sounds more like something Charisma would cover

    And, uh, you can't lead if you're dead.

    given he not only conquered tons but established a civilization which lasted centuries after his death.
    This is also true for Alexander.

    Don't forget they are separated by almost a millennium. It makes sense that we're going to see more visible effects of the Mongol Empire than ancient Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arha View Post
    Didn't Genghis' empire fragment into four separate empires extremely quickly and then most of those empires also fell before too much longer? And I know the Yuan dynasty and the Golden Horde were very unpopular.
    the Mongol Empire was at its peak after Genghis died, yeah. But then it ended up being separate states, the rest is history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arha View Post
    Didn't Genghis' empire fragment into four separate empires extremely quickly and then most of those empires also fell before too much longer? And I know the Yuan dynasty and the Golden Horde were very unpopular.
    Genghis planned for that separation. Kinda like each of his sons (he has 4) were given an area to rule, and amongst the four one of them would be the Great Khan of the Mongol Empire (his 3rd son Ogedei). Because one person ruling his entire Mongol Empire is physically impossible.

    And the Mongol Empire certainly last longer and was more prosperous than Alexander's empire/dynasty. At least there were 15 Great Khans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Read somewhere that Iskandar's rank is only B because while he conquered all across the world, most of his kingdom fell apart soon after he died. Not sure how reliable this is (kingdoms falling apart after death sounds rather more like a leadership issue then tactics per-se) but if so then Genghis could easily have it at rank A, given he not only conquered tons but established a civilization which lasted centuries after his death.
    I'm reasonably certain that the military commander Mew's talking about is Caesar.

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    And the Roman Empire ex Republic lasted for ages after he died.
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    I don't think Military Tactics have anything to do with how long said person's dynasty last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    I'm reasonably certain that the military commander Mew's talking about is Caesar.
    Alexander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    It's funny because Gawain's legends are full of him being the most silver-tongued of the rt knights, although his arc in Gawain and the Green Knight would suggest he learns the value of being forthright.
    Could be Nasu's interpretation of how Gawain sometimes scolds Arthur in the French stories: instead of brutal honesty, oblivious honesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    It's funny because Gawain's legends are full of him being the most silver-tongued of the rt knights, although his arc in Gawain and the Green Knight would suggest he learns the value of being forthright.
    Wasn't that Kay?

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    about Cu's Gae Bolg's supposedly "tapestry of action" spear-split-to-many thingy

    did we ever actually see a visual interpretation of that, aside from the newest extella video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    about Cu's Gae Bolg's supposedly "tapestry of action" spear-split-to-many thingy
    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post

    did we ever actually see a visual interpretation of that, aside from the newest extella video?

    tapestry of action is a fancy way of saying
    well a fancy way of saying nothing tbh
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