Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[chain]

do we have a discord and if we do whats the pass thanks in advance

[Kirby]

CASE 3
The rumour that ‘the ghosts of the residents who lived in the experimental city on the sea, which was destroyed in a large-scale disaster last year, have been emerging in all sorts of virtual-reality services”. There were no survivors from this city.

Is this city ever mentioned again, or no?

[Zenieth]

I think that's Alice related.

[You]

Is this city ever mentioned again, or no?

nope
good fanfic material though
i was planning on writing something about that, but it ended up too complicated

that or bioshock reference

[Dullahan]

do we have a discord and if we do whats the pass thanks in advance

You're welcome.

[Kirby]

Are there translated Extra materials?

[Seika]

http://tmdict.com/book/fate-extra-material

[Lily Emilio]

That big red warning line at the beginning lol.

There are weird mistakes here and there such as translating Wizard as Servant...so yea, read at your own risk.

[Kirby]

Oh, wow. Thanks

[Kirby]

Is there anything wrong with this translation?

■魔術師【事柄】
ウィザード。EXTRAにおけるA級ハッカー。
通常のハッカーに比べて、魂レベルで電脳空間にダイブできる異能者。
通常のハッカーは、

・視覚のみの電子変換。
（脊髄挿入型のインターフェイスによる簡易接続。
情報を直接脳に送り込めるので、各種情報をデジタル変換する手間が省ける。恩恵はインプットの み）

・視覚、触覚の電子変換。
（有線でネットに神経を繋げ、存在階梯を電子上のものとする。インプット、アウトプット、ともに能力向上。 ただし電脳空間では人間としてのカタチは作れない。
あくまで一端末としての介入で、生命とは認められない。既存の回路を閲覧し、操作するだけ。回路そのものの 変更・改革は不可能）

となるのだが、ウィザードはその上、自己の精神、自己の肉体を電子化ならぬ霊子化し、分身として送り込める 。
即ち、電脳空間における魂の物質化である。
SE.RA.PHにおける電脳体とは、肉体・精神・魂の三要素を霊子化したものを指す。

必要なものはハッカーとしての知識・技術ではなく、肉体・精神的な才能《タレント》。
魔術回路と呼ばれる架倥神鰹を肉体に持ち、自身の本質を電脳として明確に数値化《イメージ》できる異才が必 要となる。
このイメージ化の方法はウィザードごとに異なる。
演算処理によってデジタル化する者もいれば、
瞑想によってイメージを生み出すもの、
薬物投与によって逃避するもの、と様々。
２０３０年現在、疑似霊子ハッキングは外付けのインターフェイスで可能となったが、魔術師クラスのハッカー は希少である。
魔術師には人権があるため、西欧財閥すら独占できない。国連が管理、所属させるものとされているが、フリー の魔術師たちを秘密裏に囲おうとする国は後を絶たない。

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生命の定義とは、住んでいる環境を自身の意志・行動によって変革できるもの、とされる。
魂を以て電脳空間に介入したウィザードはムーンセルによって生命と認められ、電脳空間における開拓が可能と なる。
開拓……フロンティア、パイオニア……こそ人間が行うもっとも大きな意義にして罪。
その可能性をもったウィザードにとって、電脳空間は第二の現実と言っても過言ではない。
ウィザードにとって肉体はあくまでホーム。
仮に地上にある自分の肉体が死んでしまっても家に帰れなくなるだけで、開拓地に留まり、そこで消滅しないか ぎり、魂が消え去る事はない。
（ただし『変化から自分を護る』殻である実肉体が失われると、その知性体の構造・価値観はたやすく変貌して いくため、変質は避けられないが）
ウィザードにとって本当の死は電脳死。
電脳空間で魂が焼け落ちた時こそ、彼らは再生不可能の塵になるのである。

Magus [circumstances] P162
Wizards.
In Fate/Extra “Wizard” refers to A-class hackers.
Compared to your average hacker Wizards posses special abilities and can dive into the cyber world at a soul level. [TL NOTE: This probably means they can transfer their soul into the cyber world]
Ordinary hackers fall into two categories:
-Visual Perception Digitization (only visual)
(This is done through a simple spinal insert interface connection.
Information is directly streamed into the brain, so they avoid the trouble of transforming each type of information into a digital signal. Favors input only.)
-Visual and Touch Perception Digitization.
(This is done through a wired connection from the nerves to the net. It allows a hacker to project the basic components of their being onto the net. Input/Output capable, and more powerful.
However, the user is unable to project a human form in the cyber world.
This is at best a simple projection, and as such is not recognized as a life form. Their existence circuit is read from their body, and they just manipulate that projection. They are unable to change or revise their circuit.)
When it comes to Servants, Servants are in a spirit form, so their bodies and minds cannot be digitized, so they create a [physical] copy (bunshin) of themselves in order to do this.
However, their soul is indeed materialized properly in the cyber world.
As for cyber bodies in SE.RA.PH, they are composed of the spirit form of three components; body, mind, and soul.
Hacking knowledge and skills are not particularly important for Wizards, physical ability and mental prowess are far more useful. Having magic circuits (also known as imaginary nerves) in your body, and the ability to clearly conceptualize your digital self is essential to help translate the true essence of yourself accurately into a digital image in the cyber world.

The way of conceptualizing one’s digital image differs from wizard to wizard.
There are a variety of methods; some use computer processing, others use meditation to give birth to their image, and some even take drugs to escape from reality.
In present day 2030 it has become possible to hack in a fake spirit through an external interface, but Magus-class hackers remain a rarity.

Due to Magus having human rights, even the West European Plutocracy couldn’t monopolize them. Thus Magus were put under the control and management of the United Nations, however there remains a never ending list of countries who try to keep the existence of free Magus behind closed doors.

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The definition of life is considered to be “the ability to change the environment you live in through your own actions and of your own accord.”
Since Servants can intervene in the cyber world similarly to souls, Moon Cell accepts them as living, and thus their advance into the cyber world is possible.
Expanding to new frontiers is, in a way, the greatest sin of mankind.
To wizards who posses this ability, it’s not too much to say that the cyber world is like a second reality.
A physical body is merely a “home” of sorts to a wizard.
If the physical body of a Wizard on Earth were to die, it would simply mean that they would not be able to return “home,” and they would remain in the cyber frontier. As long as their existence in the cyber world is not destroyed, their soul would not disappear. (However, the empty shell that is a Wizard’s real physical body protects them from change in the cyber world, and the loss of it will quite easily and unavoidably transform the structure of their intelligence, as well as their sense of values.)
To a wizard, the only true death is the death of their cyber existence.
Only after their souls have burned out and crumbled away will they become scrap that is no longer able to be revived.

[Mcjon01]

Is there anything wrong with this translation?

That big red warning line at the beginning lol.

There are weird mistakes here and there such as translating Wizard as Servant...so yea, read at your own risk.

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[Kirby]

I was wondering if there was anything else with that translation that was wrong, aside from just that.

[AvengerEmiya]

How come Archer and the other Counter Guardians haven't attempted to do anything about Solomon?

[Trubo]

How do you know that Chaldea isn't acting on the Counter-Force's behalf?

[Raylen Cypher]

How come Archer and the other Counter Guardians haven't attempted to do anything about Solomon?

Kinda hard to call upon the Will of Humanity when humanity is dead.

[asterism42]

ahem




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Counter Guardians are involved with the 'save hoomins' bit.

[Roxas]

How come Archer and the other Counter Guardians haven't attempted to do anything about Solomon?

maybe the final order?

btw after Kerry died what happened with his crest and weapons again? did they talked about this in FSN or in a interview?

[asterism42]

I vaguely recall someone mentioning somewhere that his Crest got nicked by the Association.

[Laserman]

btw after Kerry died what happened with his crest and weapons again? did they talked about this in FSN or in a interview?

This is a very good question? What did happen to his stuff?

[Sesto]

yard sale