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[Ereus]

I keep hearing people say something along the lines of 'the mooncell summons the core graph' what does this mean?

[Lily Emilio]

I keep hearing people say something along the lines of 'the mooncell summons the core graph' what does this mean?

Who ever said that?

The Moon Cell also connects to the throne to summon servants like the grail. The difference is that the servants get a digital body cuz digital world.

[Ereus]

Who ever said that?

The Moon Cell also connects to the throne to summon servants like the grail. The difference is that the servants get a digital body cuz digital world.

k so just ignore it, so its pretty much the same situation as in normal fate? just bunrei/copies/whatever.

[castor212]

depends on the thing in q uestion
if its the pole, probably
guns, probably not, unless he's trying to pistol whip Herc

but what if the guns bullet muzzle kinteic force used the ones that can reach A rank strength in terms of numbers

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ok this is a bad question and a bad idea

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Who ever said that?

The Moon Cell also connects to the throne to summon servants like the grail. The difference is that the servants get a digital body cuz digital world.

wait a sec, i thought in Moon Cell it works with its own recorded history, which just happened to be the same from the Thrones.

Basically the Moon Cell takes the Servants from its records of history, but the recorded heroes are identical to the ones in the Throne of Heroes anyway.

[Lily Emilio]

wait a sec, i thought in Moon Cell it works with its own recorded history, which just happened to be the same from the Thrones.

Finish your Extella playthrough. The statement is in there.

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Tho iirc XSEED translated that part abit weird so you might miss it if you just glance over it.

[castor212]

oh its an extella thingy
got it

[Lily Emilio]

Before Extella, what we thought = Moon Cell has its records so it used the records to create servants.
After Extella: Moon Cell has its records but it just did what the grail did, which was used as an example to explain a certain spoiler in a certain route.

[mewarmo990]

They're terminals for mainframes.

Parallels drawn to how memories and experiences work, too.

[castor212]

one thing tho, that means that one QA that says

はい、その通り正しいです。より正確に言うと、ムーンセルが記録している人類史からの完全再現 となりま す。ただし、この人類史は仮言的に英霊の座と繋がっているので、一概にコピーとは言えません。 要するに、ム ーンセルも自分で人類史を作っている認識なのですが、その人類史はそもそも英霊の座とまったく 同じものなの で、同一存在として仮言的には重なり合っている、みたいな感じです。

is retconned?

[Lily Emilio]

Why is it a retcon? This part "ただし、この人類史は仮言的に英霊の座と繋がっているので、一概にコピーとは言えません" and Taiga said "エクストラでのアーチャーさんは英霊の座から呼び出された" in the line after that.

[castor212]

my bad, wrong quote

its this one i guess

ムーンセルのサーヴァントは抑止の輪から呼び出されたものじゃなくて

anw, what i mean to say is that the QA did say that the moon cell servant is not summoned from throne but moon cell's own record. So is that statement retconned?

or am i just misunderstanding stuffs and shoulkd just play extella up to that point already

[Lily Emilio]

Isn't 抑止の輪 the thing from servant summoning chants?

The answer said that Moon Cell's record = Throne's record and those 2 are hypothetically linked. So summoning servants from that record or the throne is basically the same thing, is what I can get from it.

[castor212]

yes, but then this happens right?

After Extella: Moon Cell has its records but it just did what the grail did, which was used as an example to explain a certain spoiler in a certain route.

wouldnt this mean summoning from mooncel record is no longer a thing and that statement got retconned then

i.....should probably just go finish extella before dwelling further

[Lily Emilio]

Records and throne are linked means the data is shared between them. If the Moon Cell recorded you then you go to the throne too, just like the Tamamo Nine.

Like I said above, Taiga literally said Extra EMIYA was summoned from the throne of heroes so I don't see why it is a retcon when Extella confirmed again that the Moon Cell can connect to the throne to summon servants.

[castor212]

ok backup, back up a bit

the QA concluision was this

Basically the Moon Cell takes the Servants from its records of history

but now extella said this

The Moon Cell also connects to the throne to summon servants like the grail.

is this or is this not a retcon?

or these 2 statement are not mutually exclusive?

[Laserman]

Now I'm confused. I thought the top was what Mizukume said. But it was actually the bottom. That was my mistake. The Moon Cell summoning Servants from its records is what I know. And these two statements that castor has up there are different. So is this or is it not a retcon?

[Lily Emilio]

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post2548047
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post2548151

Did Kinoko lie again? You guys answer arai for me.

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Just give in to some spoilers and save your brain, castor.

[Laserman]

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post2548047
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post2548151

Did Kinoko lie again? You guys answer arai for me.

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Just give in to some spoilers and save your brain, castor.

Don't do it.

[Tobias]

Actually the stupidly over simple answer that popped into my mind is that if the mooncell is accessing the throne, which apparently it is, then you could make a pretty decent argument that the mooncell is treating the throne as it's records.

or part of them at least.

[castor212]

my right arm is clicking the link on its own somebody stop me

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wait i should just bookmark that post of yours instead and read it later

anw, thanks for taking the time to explain it to me, mizukume