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    There are still dead apostles, they're just not in the Dead Apostle Ancestor club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    What about him?

    It's not like Fate doesn't point this out itself. Shirou Emiya of Fate's story is not a Heroic Spirit, but EMIYA is.
    Zelretch is one of the Dead Apostle Ancestors, isn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stille View Post
    Zelretch is one of the Dead Apostle Ancestors, isn't he?
    Well since the club doesn't exist in Fate works he would be called just a Dead Apostle in the Fate worlds and a Dead Apostle Ancestor in the Tsukihime worlds and confused worlds.

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    can someone tel me exactly which part of camelot got built by them fairies again

    or how many parts
    fairies helped the humans build it all
    They didn't specifically build one part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Well since the club doesn't exist in Fate works he would be called just a Dead Apostle in the Fate worlds and a Dead Apostle Ancestor in the Tsukihime worlds and confused worlds.
    But he became a DAA as a result of his conflict with Brunestud of Crimson Moon, who was the primordial Dead Apostle Ancestor. If the very existence of Dead Apostle Ancestors is excluded in Fate works, Zelretch's story seems to be extremely incomplete there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stille View Post
    But he became a DAA as a result of his conflict with Brunestud of Crimson Moon, who was the primordial Dead Apostle Ancestor. If the very existence of Dead Apostle Ancestors is excluded in Fate works, Zelretch's story seems to be extremely incomplete there.
    Have you considered the possibility of there being only one Zel in the entire bunch of parallel worlds?
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    The existence of DAAs themselves is not excluded.

    As in, hi, I'm Shirou Emiya of Fate/stay night. At no point will I become Heroic Spirit EMIYA.

    Hi, I'm Heroic Spirit EMIYA. Even though I don't come to exist on this worldline, here I am. You see why I have existential problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stille View Post
    But he became a DAA as a result of his conflict with Brunestud of Crimson Moon, who was the primordial Dead Apostle Ancestor. If the very existence of Dead Apostle Ancestors is excluded in Fate works, Zelretch's story seems to be extremely incomplete there.
    Well Dead Apostle Ancestor is just a title.
    It's not an existence or anything. Like Primate Murder is called a DAA also ORT.

    And Brunestud isn't the "primordial DAA" or whatever. The name DAA was made after him and was applied to him.

    Either way DAA is just a name some of these 27 decided to call themselves in on branch of the universe. It's not actually that meaningful other than for bullying Roa.

    And DAA's like Zepia, Gransurg, and Riza exist in Fate worlds, they're just not called DAAs and different stuff happened to them.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    The American organization pulling strings in FSF, does it have a proper name?

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    *Typed FSN when I meant to put an 'F' at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    The American organization pulling strings in FSN, does it have a proper name?
    as of 2017 probably "fake news"
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Besides an extended scene with Medea and her former Master (Atrum) and Illya's death being more graphic, what other extended/altered scenes are there in the second cour of the Unlimited Blade Works anime (2014-15)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderSnapper View Post
    Besides an extended scene with Medea and her former Master (Atrum) and Illya's death being more graphic, what other extended/altered scenes are there in the second cour of the Unlimited Blade Works anime (2014-15)?
    Seibah getting groped by Medea.

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    More Medea molesting Saber, Shirou looking like a drunkard on the streets to people, no anti-epilepsy darkening of screens during final battles

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    Also a glimpse of Kirei with the orphans

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    Could anyone point out the eps where some of these take place? (minus the Medea one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderSnapper View Post
    Besides an extended scene with Medea and her former Master (Atrum) and Illya's death being more graphic, what other extended/altered scenes are there in the second cour of the Unlimited Blade Works anime (2014-15)?
    The Emiya vs Shirou battle happening in UBW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post


    fairies helped the humans build it all
    They didn't specifically build one part.
    What about the table being the foundation and excal being the battery

    Is the table pure fairy made or just human made with help from fairies

    This might just be me being drunk that one time when browsing BL and misremembering
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    Also, is Suiten function works as 1. Infonite maryoku supply or 2. Maryoku cost reduction?

    Because mat books has quotes that said both but i dunno if the latter is just gameplay reference or actual lore function
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