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    Meanwhile, we have precedent for God/faith related skills that are derived from a higher power, including David's Divinity and Martha learning stuff from Christ so gg, it isn't just madness.

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    tfw fourth magic will never be revealed
    updated 2019/1/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Okay then smart guy, why don't you tell me what the Fifth is then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    There are skills inherent to the soul or to the flesh though, like Clairvoyance in the flesh.
    I don't think inherent is the best way to describe it.
    It's more like "if Captain Ginyu swapped bodies with Hero X, what abilities would he obtain"
    If he swapped bodies with Solomon, he'd get Clairvoyance but not Revelation
    But Servant Solomon would still have both
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
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    I meant more in terms of what its effects and true nature are. Because if it's been revealed what the Fifth is other then vaguely not!time travel, I'd very much like to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    I don't think inherent is the best way to describe it.
    It's more like "if Captain Ginyu swapped bodies with Hero X, what abilities would he obtain"
    If he swapped bodies with Solomon, he'd get Clairvoyance but not Revelation
    But Servant Solomon would still have both
    That's exactly what I said. It's a permanent attribute of their flesh. If someone gets the body they get the skill too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    I made my point anyway.
    Well I read the entire vlad section just now and I can't find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    That's exactly what I said. It's a permanent attribute of their flesh. If someone gets the body they get the skill too.
    saying something is inherent to the flesh makes it sound like as a Servant you wouldn't get Clairvoyance
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    I meant more in terms of what its effects and true nature are. Because if it's been revealed what the Fifth is other then vaguely not!time travel, I'd very much like to hear it.
    It's true nature is the Magic of Consumption based on her Lord of Vermillion Card.
    It's effects are time manipulation based on energy shifting of some sort.
    Not to be confused with time travel
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Just look at what Goetia did. Dem hints.

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    So, like, given that he apparently killed Iolaus in this timeline, how did Herc beat the hydra?

    It's been bugging me for a while
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    So, like, given that he apparently killed Iolaus in this timeline, how did Herc beat the hydra?

    It's been bugging me for a while
    Nine Lives. He attacked it really really fast.

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    *shrug*

    M'not sure that would've worked. Oh well, differences from RL myths and whatnot.

    Also one of the reasons he had to do twelve instead of ten was because the hydra didn't count because he had help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It's true nature is the Magic of Consumption based on her Lord of Vermillion Card.
    It's effects are time manipulation based on energy shifting of some sort.
    Not to be confused with time travel
    Time manipulation?
    Spoiler:

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    Sorry i mean time modification. Modifying time itself.
    Kiritsugu, traversing the corridors, felt that his whole body was being devoured by the after effects of using his magecraft.

    The skill he used to dodge Kayneth’s Mystic Code just then wasn’t a basic physical enchantment. It was an advanced magecraft with a greater range of utility – and obviously with far stronger side effects.

    The ability to separate the passage of time inside a designated space from the "flow of time" in the outside world; in some ways, Time Manipulation can be regarded as a type of Reality Marble. Although it is classified as a greater magecraft, it is definitely not "magic" which cannot be replicated. Compared to "time modification", which can reverse cause and effect and change the past, this is merely the magecraft of "time adjustment" that can stagnate the time that had passed and accelerate the time in the future. Therefore, it is not a magecraft of extraordinary difficulty.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    I mean, what isn't supposed to have worked?
    In the original myth, he cut the Hydra's heads off one by one and they continuously regenerated, so he had Iolaus burn off the stumps of the necks he cut so they wouldn't regrow. Something something myth parallel to weeds killing useful crops etc etc

    Nothing to say if whether "kill ALL THE HEADS REALLY FAST" would work or not.

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    But he only can accelarate and stagnate his own body right?

    So fifth magic doesn't really make ypu travel time?
    Spoiler:

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    who said its iolaus who died?

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    like, does laonome not have a child or smtg
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