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[Mcjon01]

He's 500 years old.

[Iceblade44]

Yeah he’s old enough to have interacted with Paracelsus and Leonardo da Vinci when they were alive

[Imperial]

I find it funny that Zouke is older than some of the Heroic Spirits.

Can you imagine how much shit he could give one of the other Matou if they summoned a guy who wasn't even born yet when Zouken was in his hundreds?

[forumghost]

I find it funny that Zouke is older than some of the Heroic Spirits.

Can you imagine how much shit he could give one of the other Matou if they summoned a guy who wasn't even born yet when Zouken was in his hundreds?

I dunno, after seeing how he treats Shinji and Kariya I think he's already giving them the maximum amount of Shit.

[34]

Shakespeare with his Enchant Skill can produce NP-level armaments. Similarly, Edison with Mass Production and Concept Improvement can mass produce better version of NPs.

So according to these examples, does this mean FSF Dumas' ability to create NPs which "surpasses their legend" is most possibly a Skill too?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Speaking of Zouken, was he the "bug-tamer from Kiev" Francesca referred to when she said she was unable to observe the Fourth Holy Grail War, and how would the Matous, especially Kariya, prevent Francesca from observing to the point where she actually mentions them later?

[castor212]

Im p sure dumas already said his was a skill

[pinetree]

Speaking of Zouken, was he the "bug-tamer from Kiev" Francesca referred to when she said she was unable to observe the Fourth Holy Grail War, and how would the Matous, especially Kariya, prevent Francesca from observing to the point where she actually mentions them later?

She could observe it, she knew Gilles was there after all. I always took it as Zouken preventing her from physically going there and messing shit up.

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Im p sure dumas already said his was a skill

Right, it's been literally a year since I read FSF.

I imagine Dumas' is closer to Shake's skill in application. Shame that we only see little use for that skill in Apo.

Also, did Shakes uses that Skill to create the Phantoms in Shinjuku?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

She could observe it, she knew Gilles was there after all. I always took it as Zouken preventing her from physically going there and messing shit up.

The weird part is that she referred to the "descendants of that old bug-tamer" as opposed to just that old bug-tamer, implying that either Zouken was a descendant of another bug-tamer from the Kiev area or that Kariya is the one who prevented her physical interference. Either way, I can't believe I'm saying this, but good job Matou family.

[Bobin]

I’m positive that it was all Zouken since he’s actually amazing. I mean like really, fucking Kariya?

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

I’m positive that it was all Zouken since he’s actually amazing. I mean like really, fucking Kariya?

I dunno, I'm skeptical too. The wording just made things unclear. I too think it was mostly Zouken, but then there's the whole "descendant" thing that confuses matters.

[SpoonyViking]

Maybe Francesca doesn't know Zouken has really been alive all these years. Isn't he supposed to be assuming false identities as his own descendants over the years?

[Urameshi Yūsuke]

Maybe Francesca doesn't know Zouken has really been alive all these years. Isn't he supposed to be assuming false identities as his own descendants over the years?

I always thought he was body jacking his descendants.

Or was that just Sakura because of the grail?

[jennajayfeather]

Maybe Francesca doesn't know Zouken has really been alive all these years. Isn't he supposed to be assuming false identities as his own descendants over the years?

That'd be ironic.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Maybe Francesca doesn't know Zouken has really been alive all these years. Isn't he supposed to be assuming false identities as his own descendants over the years?

I thought all of the descendants he bodyjacked were named Zouken Matou, and eventually all of them looked exactly like Zouken Matou I. Anyone with a brain could figure that one out if they looked hard enough. Besides, I don't think it was much of a secret what he was doing.

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I always thought he was body jacking his descendants.

Or was that just Sakura because of the grail?

No. It was all of them. That's why Kariya left.

[LightUnite]

Hey guys. I'm unclear about something. First, is Russia's Lostbelt holder named Kodac or Kadoc? And second, if Caeneus were to be in the Russian Lostbelt, and came across Atalanta Alter, and decided to kill her, would that be considered interfering in the development of the Russian Lostbelt and be seen as an act of aggression from the view of the other Lostbelt holders/the holder of the Russian Lostbelt? I'm kinda curious.

[Iceblade44]

It's Kadoc, and I doubt that would count as interference since Atalanta is not under Kadoc. Besides that tho, the whole goal of the Lostbelts is that their all in war against each other. They want to fight each other, they will. That is their goal. Though with Chaldea thrown in the mix I doubt they will get that chance

[LightUnite]

It's Kadoc, and I doubt that would count as interference since Atalanta is not under Kadoc. Besides that tho, the whole goal of the Lostbelts is that their all in war against each other. They want to fight each other, they will. That is their goal. Though with Chaldea thrown in the mix I doubt they will get that chance

Got it. Thanks.

[Lily Emilio]

It's Kadoc, and I doubt that would count as interference since Atalanta is not under Kadoc. Besides that tho, the whole goal of the Lostbelts is that their all in war against each other. They want to fight each other, they will. That is their goal. Though with Chaldea thrown in the mix I doubt they will get that chance

Well they will fight, but not until every Lostbelt had their tree fully planted. Wodime himself speculated that if Sombrero grows up it can even consume his own LB and LB2 might be the last one to stay, yet he still did nothing and even told Ophelia to let Surtr do w/e he wants after she reported to him that the guy hijacked her Saber.