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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    And Throne of Gods is actually more like seat of God, as in the position of God than the library that stores some scrolls like the ToH.

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    Wiki is wrong.
    And the Gods go to the seat of God? Does that mean God is the gods, and...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Again, how do we know that? I don't remember seeing that anywhere, unless it happened soon after Ayaka's last memory of Einzbern castle or something.
    "Wh-who... are you...?"
    "Still," the "white woman" continued, ignoring Haruri's question, "you're lucky a 'vessel' this easy to enter just happened to be here."
    She stared at her own hands and feet, then nodded, apparently impressed. Next, she turned to look at the confused-looking Haruri and slowly reached out a hand to touch Haruri's cheek.
    ...
    What?
    Haruri had been released from the fear of death, but another fear had taken its place.
    She did not yet know how terrible the thing that had taken up residence in the Einzbern homunculus due to the influence of the catalyst she had prepared truly was
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
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    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
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    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    And the Gods go to the seat of God? Does that mean God is the gods, and...
    Gods go to their specific realm of gods once AoG is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    And Throne of Gods is actually more like seat of God, as in the position of God than the library that stores some scrolls like the ToH.

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    Wiki is wrong.

    so why did people bring it up in this forum before and saying that there was a slight mistranslation rather than saying that the whole thing was fake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Gods go to their specific realm of gods once AoG is over.
    So like Asgard, Olympus, Vaikunta, etc.? And that isn't the Throne of Gods? Wait, then how can Divine Spirits be summoned as Pseudo-Servants if they're not in a Throne of Heroes-like construct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    And the Gods go to the seat of God? Does that mean God is the gods, and...
    when people say "the seat of XXXX" they're using an idiom that refers to the position. Like "Billy arrived to the seat of CEO." means that Billy became a CEO. The seat is a metaphor for the position. In the nasuverse, like which other stuff, the metaphor is literal at the same time. You see this with the Throne of Heroes which can also be translated to "the seat of heroes." The seat of gods/throne of gods is the same thing. The exact stuff about it is talked about in Extella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    when people say "the seat of XXXX" is an idiom talking about the position. Like "Billy arrived to the seat of CEO." means that Billy became a CEO. The seat is a metaphor for the position.
    In the nasuverse, like which other stuff, the metaphor is literal at the same time. You see this with the Throne of Heroes which can also be translated to "the seat of heroes."
    The seat of gods/throne of gods is the same thing. The exact stuff about it is talked about in Extella.
    So it IS like that. Throne and Seat are interchangeable. Okay because I thought the Seat of Gods was the the same as the purported Seat of God who ruled Akasha or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    so why did people bring it up in this forum before and saying that there was a slight mistranslation rather than saying that the whole thing was fake?
    I dunno what ppl talk about b4. I just know that it's wrong and missing the context entirely.
    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    So like Asgard, Olympus, Vaikunta, etc.? And that isn't the Throne of Gods? Wait, then how can Divine Spirits be summoned as Pseudo-Servants if they're not in a Throne of Heroes-like construct?
    You send signals to the realm of gods, asking the deity to come down, deity then create a bunrei and send that bunrei to you, you can fit it into a class container, or pseudo-servant...etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    So it IS like that. Throne and Seat are interchangeable. Okay because I thought the Seat of Gods was the the same as the purported Seat of God who ruled Akasha or something.
    When Aoko and Alice are teaching Punchman about the Root and mention the seat of god. They're talking about it metaphorically.
    As in when you get to Akasha you're arriving to the position of god.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    What's the opinion on Nartia writing that tidbit for Hippolyta's Divinity description, where it implies those with A Rank Divinity are also beings that arrived at the Throne of Gods? Is there like a venn diagram with the ToH and ToG where those with A Rank Divinity are in the middle of the diagram, and thus, are in both thrones? Or are only their godly aspects recorded in the Throne of Gods and their non-godly aspects in the Throne of Heroes? I'm not talking about those that would normally be unable to be summoned, like actual Divine Spirits (like those that had to be a Pseudo-Servant), but someone like Heracles, Rama, Karna, etc.

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    I think that question's answer is unclear because really haven't actually seen A Rank Divinity Servants Divine aspects that much and how they would interact as Gods. Like I don't think we have a statement which can put it in one box or another or that's just what it seems to me
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    Who are the A-Rank Divinity Servants? All the demigods I can remember off the top of my head all have B-Rank at highest. Also, I now have more questions about Filia and how Ishtar could have randomly decided to come down as a Divine Spirit to the World and possess an Einzbern homunculus? How could they not have prepared it for her considering how efficient Filia/Ishtar appears to be with her use of Magic Circuits?

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    Also, does Medea have a Divinity Rank? She is the granddaughter of a Titan, after all, and her father Aetes wasn't even human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Also, does Medea have a Divinity Rank? She is the granddaughter of a Titan, after all, and her father Aetes wasn't even human.
    She does, but, for some reason, it's represented by Rule Breaker instead of a skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Who are the A-Rank Divinity Servants? All the demigods I can remember off the top of my head all have B-Rank at highest. Also, I now have more questions about Filia and how Ishtar could have randomly decided to come down as a Divine Spirit to the World and possess an Einzbern homunculus? How could they not have prepared it for her considering how efficient Filia/Ishtar appears to be with her use of Magic Circuits?
    Tamamo, Karna, Heracles, Rama, Suzuka, Jaguer Man, and Valkyrie. Also highly like Romulus though he sealed his.

    When your a demigod, for you to possess A rank you need to be not only a child of a god but also ascend for Godhood on death. As for the other A rankers there circumstances are different yet they have them

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    She does, but, for some reason, it's represented by Rule Breaker instead of a skill.
    Yes. Rule Breaker since SN was described as a manifestation of the Divinty of the witch of betrayal.
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    I’ll assume the same reason for Medea lily and her breaker but what about Circe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    I’ll assume the same reason for Medea lily and her breaker but what about Circe?
    Her profile says she's a demigod. So its not like they've forgotten it.
    Might be something else in her profile that's undisclosed.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    I dunno what ppl talk about b4. I just know that it's wrong and missing the context entirely.
    ok, so i went back to it again and the translation seems to have changed again. now apparently just says that the original earth mother goddesses can be consideres the root of all life on earth rather than being connected to the Root with a capital R.

    this is just one big and bad telephone game.

    reminds me of when we found out about the reinhgold mistranslation for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    ok, so i went back to it again and the translation seems to have changed again. now apparently just says that the original earth mother goddesses can be consideres the root of all life on earth rather than being connected to the Root with a capital R.

    this is just one big and bad telephone game.

    reminds me of when we found out about the reinhgold mistranslation for some reason
    Doesn't that just describe the whole TM fandom as a whole?

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