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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLich79 View Post
    I should really start re-reading my sentences before positng them, anyways, thanks.
    How long does it take for the Einzbern to make a Lesser Grail?
    Illya fit the role in eighteen years or so, but who knows how young she could have been and still worked. I'm unsure how old Irisviel was. Sakura fit the bill within ten years, but she had bits of Iri shoved in her.

    If you're asking how long it took for them to make lesser grails back when they were still just cups, before they went over to anime girls in the 4th war onwards, I'm not sure there's even an answer out there.

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    As for anime girls, even then the timeline is unclear because maybe they were ready when they were first created? There's no saying Iri wasn't, to my knowledge.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neveron View Post
    Illya fit the role in eighteen years or so, but who knows how young she could have been and still worked. I'm unsure how old Irisviel was. Sakura fit the bill within ten years, but she had bits of Iri shoved in her.

    If you're asking how long it took for them to make lesser grails back when they were still just cups, before they went over to anime girls in the 4th war onwards, I'm not sure there's even an answer out there.
    Irisviel was, IIRC, 9 years old in Zero during the 4th Grail War.

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    I dont think there is a clear answer,we just know it took less than 20 year for them to turn a human-grail homunculus hybrid into a functioning grail
    And while Iri probably was functional as a grail from the moment she was booted up,we do not know if it took the Einzberns 2 days or 60 years to piece her together


    The best bet is probably to go to Fate/apo. Find out how long ago Gordes got the eizbern recipe compared to his first batch and claim thats the timeframe.

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    I know this is a stupid question(I blame my memory) but what is the difference between Mana and Prana? I know Od is made by/in a person's soul. Mana is made by the world(which part of the world? Alaya? Gaia? COUNTER FORCE?!!). What's prana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLich79 View Post
    I know this is a stupid question(I blame my memory) but what is the difference between Mana and Prana? I know Od is made by/in a person's soul. Mana is made by the world(which part of the world? Alaya? Gaia? COUNTER FORCE?!!). What's prana?
    World as in the planet. Prana iirc is a fanon term meaning magical energy, which is what cycling your Od or mana through your Magic Circuits results in.

    Maybe I'm wrong, I do vaguely recall prana having something to do with sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyLich79 View Post
    I know this is a stupid question(I blame my memory) but what is the difference between Mana and Prana? I know Od is made by/in a person's soul. Mana is made by the world(which part of the world? Alaya? Gaia? COUNTER FORCE?!!). What's prana?
    Prana=im to lazy to type out 'Magical Energy'

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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    World as in the planet. Prana iirc is a fanon term meaning magical energy, which is what cycling your Od or mana through your Magic Circuits results in.
    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    Prana=im to lazy to type out 'Magical Energy'
    Ok. Thanks.

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    Can Altrouge use Arcuied's hair to power herself?
    Also, does Shirou's Projection use only Od or Od+Mana? I mean, you can say that it doesn't affect nature as Shirou is making a copy of his weapons from his soul so he only needs to use Od but him making them does affect Space-time as more mass is present due to him converting energy to mass(....did Nasu make Shirou more OP than he wanted to?) and so both mana and Od are being used.
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    Any mage worth his salt uses both od and mana for their spells

    Dunno about Shirou, at least at the time of FSN he isnt a mage worth his salt so he only uses od

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    I just want to add the detail that Prana, Mana and OD are all 'real' terms and specially Mana and Prana refer to similar concepts from different cultures, While OD is based on a pseudo-science (Odic Force).

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    Regarding Kiara and Saver, are they actually the size of planets/solar systems, or just on that scale of influence and power?

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    The latter for Saver at least, I forget the Kiara animation of Extra

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    Kiara's animation shows her getting that big, but the text doesn't really explain much about that part of her NP in CCC or GO.

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    I always just assumed it was symbolic.

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    Curious, but do most Reality Marbles require a chant in order to activate? I know Iskandar doesn't seem to need to invoke a chant, but Nero and EMIYA seem to need to do so. So, do the majority of Servants with Reality Marbles need to invoke a chant?

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    What ever happend to Souchirou and Assassin in Fate route? They obviously had to be around some point cause Arturia faces Assassin that one time. but then Caster just shows up eating souls at the Shirou household tons of hours later with no explanation



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    I thought the implication was that Gil killed them both and Caster used what mana she had left to attack the Emiya household? Then again, it's not like that was ever mentioned.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Gil turns them into pincushions.

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    That's what i've always thought, but i just got to that part again and i started thinking, cause Medea is super surprised at the appearance of Gil as if she's never seen him before...which you would think would not be the case if she had already encountered him and escaped by herself



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    The scene in Hollow Ataraxia in which Caster discovers the temple has been attacked and Kuzuki is dying is supposed to fill in this blank in the Fate route.

    The battle ended quickly.
    The gatekeeper, Assassin, was defeated by the enemy Servant, and the Master who went out to face him, too, was defeated by swordplay.
    His abdomen was cruelly torn apart.
    The arms he spent over twenty years tempering vanished below his shoulders.

    "Master, Master!!!!!"

    The woman's voice echoed in the temple grounds.
    The enemy Servant seemed to have left, having finished with the Servant and Master of the temple gate.
    Only the woman was left, clinging to the remains of her pallid contractor.

    [...]

    "Caster, get away from here. If he senses your presence, the Servant just now will return."
    And at that point in the route the only Servants remaining are Saber, Lancer, Caster, and Gilgamesh.

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