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[Deathhappens]

Concerning Guda and how he coukd summon all those servants in the final singularity and how he is able to summon shadow servants at will.And concerning things like Waver teaching about heroic spirit evocation and also things like Merem Solomon being a terminal.Would it be possible, in theory, for Guda, if he were to leave Chaldeas, for him to still be able to summon shadow servants at will provided that he could still keep a portion of the round table?Because he already has the connection to the heroes themselves and he round table still has the properties of being a gzthering place for heroes. (Does the table classify as a foundation in of itself btw)

Lol good luck summoning Heroic Spirits without a Grail or equivalent accessing the Throne of Heroes for you.

[Lily Emilio]

Btw, where was the Vorpal blade mentioned to be a conceptual weapon?

"Vorpal Blade? If I'm not mistaken, it's a

Logic Cancer

Conceptual Weapon

that is effective against a monster without reason."

[fire_mountain_30]

"Vorpal Blade? If I'm not mistaken, it's a

Logic Cancer

Conceptual Weapon

that is effective against a monster without reason."

Lost in translation i see. That scene only shows "mystic code" for me

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Lol good luck summoning Heroic Spirits without a Grail or equivalent accessing the Throne of Heroes for you.

Grails are just a large pool of mana. The Fyuki one has a bit of extra functions but mana is the general atrribute.

I am talking about short lived shadow servants though.

How does Guda summon shadow servants after chaldea gets wrecked? How does he do it in shimousa which is a dream?

[Trubo]

Shadow Servants don't last as long as normal Servants, basically only there for a couple of hits.

[Menwearpink]

Guda still has some support in those situations so.

[Comun]

How does he do it in shimousa which is a dream?

I don't think that's ever explained. Fujimaru is just there in chapter 1 going "Sorry I can't summon Servant", then in chapter 2 their Command Spells start heating up for absolutely no reason and suddenly Servant summon works. My best guess would be that this was the moment when Dantes or Kotarou entered the timeline, reestablish their connection to Chaldea.

[fire_mountain_30]

I don't think that's ever explained. Fujimaru is just there in chapter 1 going "Sorry I can't summon Servant", then in chapter 2 their Command Spells start heating up for absolutely no reason and suddenly Servant summon works. My best guess would be that this was the moment when Dantes or Kotarou entered the timeline, reestablish their connection to Chaldea.

It was a rethorical question to just say that Guda can do it without a grail

[Lobo]

It was a rethorical question to just say that Guda can do it without a grail

That's because Chaldea is still supplying the mana (and it was later revealed that Merlin was helping Chaldea with it), without Chaldea, Guda can't do it
After it gets destroyed is a plot point how to get the energy necessary to activate the saint graph briefcase, combine with Mash shield and a leyline to get to summon any kind of servant at all. Every LB has a section at the beginning of their stories of the characters worrying or checking how to get all that they need to summon servants in the LB territories: the kite scene on LB1, none (as Skadi ruled over all with her snow) on LB2, the cut connection to the throne on LB3 or the mention of having energy enought for two servants (Karna and Rama) on LB4

[Lily Emilio]

How does Guda summon shadow servants after chaldea gets wrecked?

That never happened b4 they finally managed to restore the FATE system in LB1. Trhoughout the entire attack on Chaldea base Guda had to fight with just Mashu and Da Vinci.

How does he do it in shimousa which is a dream?

It's not a dream. Guda got "spirited away" similar to what happened in the Dantes event. Guda in Shimousa is like Olga in the prologue where the consciousness went to the destination and somehow obtained a temporary body to act (in Olga's case her real body is dead, in Guda's case the real body is lying in bed in Chaldea base). To the body lying in Chaldea it's a dream, but in reality it's just another trip to another world of the mind in a temporary body, so there's no difference except that Guda lost connection to Chaldea which made summoning of the "shadow" servants not possible. Only after Dantes and Kotarou (sent by Chaldea via the exact same method in Dantes event that Holmes and Da Vinci examined from the records of that event) managed to find Guda and provide a connection to Chaldea that summoning the "shadow" servants is possible.

[Tobias]

Is the translation in fate extella link right when it says there are only 7 top servants, the strongest in the Se.Ra.PH? Because I did not know that.

especially since the top lancer is scathach, not karna, heavily implying she is stronger then him over all, which I did not know.

[yokushi]

Is the translation in fate extella link right when it says there are only 7 top servants, the strongest in the Se.Ra.PH? Because I did not know that.

especially since the top lancer is scathach, not karna, heavily implying she is stronger then him over all, which I did not know.

Karna is also a Top Servant. That's confirmed in the Extella Material.

[Tobias]

...one of the other classes get skipped so lancers could get two then? I went back and checked the people who have been identified as one in game.

so far I have

Gil
iskander
arturia
scathach.
if your right, karna makes 5.

i miss anyone?

EDIT: yes, I missed ajurna. Who is the last one?

[LeadDemon]

Is the translation in fate extella link right when it says there are only 7 top servants, the strongest in the Se.Ra.PH? Because I did not know that.

especially since the top lancer is scathach, not karna, heavily implying she is stronger then him over all, which I did not know.

I believe that Seiba, Gil, Iskandar, Jeanne, Karna, Arjuna, and Sca are mentioned as Top Servants, and Extella Mats mentions that Romulus would be a Top Servant if he was summoned in the SERAPH.

[forumghost]

...one of the other classes get skipped so lancers could get two then? I went back and checked the people who have been identified as one in game.

so far I have

Gil
iskander
arturia
scathach.
if your right, karna makes 5.

i miss anyone?

Jeanne

[yokushi]

...one of the other classes get skipped so lancers could get two then? I went back and checked the people who have been identified as one in game.

so far I have

Gil
iskander
arturia
scathach.
if your right, karna makes 5.

i miss anyone?

EDIT: yes, I missed ajurna. Who is the last one?

It's weird because Romulus is a Lancer and he is also said to be a Top Servant.

[Tobias]

Jeanne

*snaps fingers*

right, that makes sense.

Huh. Before link, did we know there were only seven of them in all? I feel like that’s new

[You]

It's weird because Romulus is a Lancer and he is also said to be a Top Servant.

maybe it's his Berserker form

[Lobo]

...one of the other classes get skipped so lancers could get two then? I went back and checked the people who have been identified as one in game.

The top servants are like the equivalent of Grands on the Moon Cell, they get summoned by the Moon Cell itself to battle against some menace without a master
That's why servants like Gil are top servants level/candidate but aren't one of them, as the Moon Cell didn't summoned him
Karna and Scath are both candidates on that level, but Scath specifically was summoned as one on Link

[forumghost]

Also the clearly aren't paid very well because they all defect super easily.

[Zork Knight]

"Scatch is Top Lancer"

"Also, Scath keeps loosing to Queklain"