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[Leftovers]

Maybe Zelretch is fine with the FGO timeline going to shit, ever considered that

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If you really want a rationalisation as to why he wouldn't get involved, look at the single scene where we see him observe worlds using the Second. Meddling directly runs the risk of confirming a timeline according to Nasu's creative interpretation of the observer effect, while FGO seems to be resolving itself just fine through (your) heroic actions.

[migliole]

So why he appeared so casually at the end of HF while Nasu still talks about the three routes still being possibilities? Wouldn't that mean it is possible to get involved and there is actually no risk there?

I think the best use of your rationalisation is that he already did his thing and whatever happens now is what he decided.

[Leftovers]

Because it was 2004, the Moon Cell wasn't a thing, the concept of timelines wasn't developed into what it is now, and Nasu doesn't actually plan everything 15 years ahead of time.

[Mcjon01]

So why he appeared so casually at the end of HF while Nasu still talks about the three routes still being possibilities? Wouldn't that mean it is possible to get involved and there is actually no risk there?

I think the best use of your rationalisation is that he already did his thing and whatever happens now is what he decided.

You can’t observe a lion from inside its colon, you do that from outside the lion. Likewise maybe you don’t have time to observe the lion when the zoo is on fire.

[migliole]

Because it was 2004, the Moon Cell wasn't a thing, the concept of timelines wasn't developed into what it is now, and Nasu doesn't actually plan everything 15 years ahead of time.

By mooncell you're refering to the Quantum Observer theory and all that paraphernalia on extella, right?

I think this quote from CM3 at least gives the idea that he actually was already working on it.
"They're parallel... sort of. But if Zelretch was observing, it'd become true, and my feelings on the matter is that I'd rather two routes disappear if one was true. If all of these became possible at the same time, the other routes would become meaningless."

You can’t observe a lion from inside its colon, you do that from outside the lion. Likewise maybe you don’t have time to observe the lion when the zoo is on fire.

That would be indeed a good argument in favor of the Lostbelt situation, as there is indeed something there that create such effect. Dunno if it would apply to part 1 though.

[the god of world-0]

Where do mcjon get this crazy but strangely good examples?

[Dullahan]

(you) the players, collectively, are zelretch's intervention

there i solved your problem now ask something less retarded please

[You]

The point of Zelretch was not to observe, was to solve things faster. If you know what Second Magic is capable of, we wouldn't need most of what happens in FGO.

Zelretch sent Assassin who wields a fragment of the Second to help Chaldea.
How would Chaldea summon such an irregularity. They never record his Saint Graph in the main story.

[migliole]

I don't recall that, when that happened? And which assasin?

[madarra]

I was gonna say, Zel was involved in the making of the grail so therefor he saved the day via butterfly effect, but idk how that would fit the FGO timeline with its brand new fuyuki grail that was only ever used 10 years ago (if thats even true and not a cover up)

I don't recall that, when that happened? And which assasin?

REGEND saving france?

[Menwearpink]

It’s a theory/joke about Kojiro

[migliole]

Oh, that. Indeed.

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I was gonna say, Zel was involved in the making of the grail

I think he just watched the three families do it, from what I read. Which is the most probable thing he is doing as... he does that all the time in every scenario.

Well, the biggest help he gave in the end shall be this at least

[the god of world-0]

See? Zel is the true hero of

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Fate/go

[Gold Experience]

If there's a character who can solve all the problems of a story on his own then you generally want to keep him away from the story.

Well, the guy who could solve the entirety of S1 was right next to us the entire time

[Comun]

(you) the players, collectively, are zelretch's intervention

That explains why they were first found sleeping in the hallway instead of entering from the front door like the normal people.

Zelretch sent Assassin who wields a fragment of the Second to help Chaldea.
How would Chaldea summon such an irregularity. They never record his Saint Graph in the main story.

He saw Chaldea wouldn’t be able to get past the wiverns and sent and sent the ideal expert.

[fumei]

(you) the players, collectively, are zelretch's intervention

there i solved your problem now ask something less retarded please

And this is like one of the most reasonable explanations considering SF and the rest of what we know.

[Menwearpink]

Alternatively maybe he considers F/GO a mistake.

Or maybe it's a path already set for destruction.

[Reign]

Did LB2 say how long ago Sigurd and Bryn were alive?

[Lobo]

Did LB2 say how long ago Sigurd and Bryn were alive?

Not really, Sitonai comments Freyja wouldn't tell her if they were from the Age of Gods or the Common Era (BC vs. AC). They left it ambiguous

[Skull]

If they're both contempories to Attila then wouldn't they logically be from the Fifth Century?