think of something similar to elder scrolls metaphysics, alaya (nasu and tm writers) is the godhead and ryougi has achieved CHIMOriginally Posted by fire_mountain_30
think of something similar to elder scrolls metaphysics, alaya (nasu and tm writers) is the godhead and ryougi has achieved CHIM
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Blindfold your eyes, so that the approaching night may strike no fear in you.
Let it not burden your soul, nor numb your strides.
Just a heads up, I think you missed that the two phenomena are actually specific terms, so I wouldn't change them. Even if it does make it flow better.
Assuming you're referring to "Permissible for Revision" and "Designated for Culling," the specific terms (編纂事象 and 剪定事象) aren't strictly written, so I didn't strictly write them in English either.
(Though that's really just a fluke, as I don't know anything about Extella besides what I've been reading in the Extella Glossary today)
Speaking of reading things in the Extella Glossary, is the whole process of timelines being culled understood to be strictly referring to the records in the Moon Cell? I've spent far more time than I would like to admit trying to figure out how that whole process works, but I can't seem to justify the idea without restricting its existence to the Moon Cell.
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It is assumed that the conception of timelines as potentialities to which energy is allotted or denied by a universal administrator is valid outside of the Extraverse because it is compatible with the existing narratives of human struggle and stagnation, as well as the world-ending mechanism that is the Sixth.
It seems pointless to speculate how that is possible, as surely some rationalisation will be invented if it is ever relevant.
Last edited by Leftovers; April 14th, 2020 at 07:10 PM.
would have to find which exact Fallacies post was that
would have to find which exact Fallacies post was that
El-Melloi II (as a Pseudo of Zhuge Liang) mentions it in the Accel Zero FGO event, though he himself says the topic isn't his expertise.
Per Fallacies:
@ El-Melloi
You're referring to a set of parallel worlds that fall within a Primary Branch ......
The "Items Permissible to Revision" (編纂事象, Hensan Jijyou, lit. "Editable Items / Phenomena"), within which the same futures manifest even if some degree of divergence exists, and the parallel worlds of those Branches fated for destruction, which form as entirely separate realities ...
The "Items Designated for Omission" (剪定事象, Sentei Jijyou, lit. "Items / Phenomenon for Pruning").
short version: 彼は夢魔、知性体が睡眠状態に構築する集合無意識に介入できる数少ない魔術師だ。その特性を利用して、 マーリンはずっとある神の眠りの中にいたんだろう。
long version: 夢魔とは人間の精神に寄生する精神体でね。
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単独顕現：単体で現世に現れるスキル。
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幻術：人を惑わす魔術。精神への介入、現実世界への虚像投影などを指す。Aランクともなると精神世界に おける悪夢はもちろん、現実においても一つの村程度の虚像を軽く作りあげ、人々を欺く事ができ る。
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彼は夢魔、知性体が睡眠状態に構築する集合無意識に介入できる数少ない魔術師だ。その特性を利用して、 マーリンはずっとある神の眠りの中にいたんだろう。
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reality is a dream and that's why merlin can pop up wherever he wants
superfluous sources to justify wasting time to track them down:
Spoiler:
personal disclaimer: ↘
Last edited by Leftovers; April 14th, 2020 at 09:30 PM.
To add to what the others already said, Amakusa even mentions the thing about timelocks being set at the end of every century in Shimousa IIRC.
You detailed it very well. I think that in general it is the same ability with its differentials, unique effects due to circumstances (Gods, mith...).
I had forgotten about of Paris. He also gets on that list.
There's a few more Affection of X skills that are more specific as well, like Nitocris, Kerry and Anadusa.
ok fine
merlin can fuck with minds and put tiamat('s mind) to sleep
EITHER
with incubus powers [Merlin: Incubi are spirits that feed on the minds of humans.]
OR
his illusion skill [Magic that bewilder others. An interference of the mind, indicating false image projection and the likes to the real world.]
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EITHER
real merlin entered tiamat's sleep and projected himself into the real world [Roman: I bet Merlin used that ability to stay in Tiamat's slumbering mind for a long time. He was probably keeping her asleep. Only an apparition of him was with you.]
OR
real merlin's status in the real world affects his ability to keep tiamat in the dream [Merlin: I can't explain it, but it'd be REALLY bad if I lost consciousness!]
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EITHER
tiamat awoke and "killed" real merlin inside the dream and projected merlin disappeared [Roman: But now his true body has been killed. He would've been more or less invincible in a sleeper's deep dream, but that ability has one fatal flaw: REM sleep. If the sleeper's consciousness becomes partially awake, all of the dream world will turn against the invader. When Gorgon died, that consciousness stirred. Half-awake, it was able to capture and obliterate Merlin.]
OR
tiamat awoke and "killed" real merlin in the real world [Merlin, not yet dead: Return to Uruk, quickly. It's awakened, but it hasn't started moving yet.]
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merlin survived because he can retreat back to "the world of dreams" [Merlin: I didn't mention this before, but I'm immortal! After all, I'm a half-incubus. The second this body is smashed, I will reappear in the world of dreams! But I'll need some time to return, so let's decide on a place to meet!] -> 夢の世界に逃げ込む
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the world of dreams is avalon/the other side
[Merlin: Hahaha, no, of course not. Re-summoning is impossible. There's a simpler explanation. I am the real deal, the genuine Merlin. I just popped over from Avalon!]
and Merlin can travel between it and the real world
[Merlin: Ah, with the Earth a blank slate from humanity's incineration, I was able to sneak through fairyland!]
just because he wants to
[I do hate sad partings. Letting death be what separates us would have just been too depressing!]
and he's that good
[Therefore, I bent the rules just a liiiiiittle bit and escaped my tower of imprisonment.]
probably by way of his independent manifestation skill
[A skill to appear in the present world independently. Normally, Merlin cannot be summoned as a Heroic Spirit. That is due to him not dying in any version of future. Him serving the Master as a Servant is just him venting out his personal desire. Frankly, it's just a hobby. For the sake of actualizing this hobby, he acquires this skill that only a special class (Beast) can have and pretend to be summoned as a Servant.]
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merlin's ability to enter/influence dreams and his ability to manifest into the real world ≠ the real world is a dream.
consider avalon/the other side as a "dream" into which merlin "retreats" when he is killed:
(relevance of the planet being described as dreaming re: archetype earth uncertain - as a product of crimson moon's reality marble?)
Then, what is 知性体が睡眠状態に構築する集合無意識? A particularly flowery description of dreams or a misuse of the term "collective unconscious", or both.
Is there a meaningful difference between describing the current texture of reality as a collective dream as opposed to a collective will or a collective wish? No, probably not.
Last edited by Leftovers; April 14th, 2020 at 10:19 PM.
I mean that Merlin post was just her theorizing based off existing stuff. Whether it's true or not is still up in the air, she's just made one case for one POV on it.
sorry not sorry
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Sure. I only included the posts where she went "the world is a dream, probably" without source or asterisks because my major peeve with using falla's posts as a resource other than style is how often her speculations are - without judgment on my part as to any possible intent on either her or others' part - taken up as fact. As can be seen in the post that prompted this.
Why are you sorry for speaking the truth?
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I understand that her TLs can be wordy and her speculations are taken over others due to lack of relevant TLs for other speculations in other places. My only problem here is that some people are too willing to write her off without explaining why, and it's not like she can't take valid criticism/proofreading if explained to her.
I don't really want to say too much about a person without them present. You're right in that it's not conducive towards discussion that hardly anyone cares to criticise her renderings in depth; on the other hand there is a long history of arguments and a slew of reasons why these conversations don't happen. The spheres where her translations are used don't intersect with BL often anyhow.
Hope it wasn't too disruptive this time round.
Speaking of other topics, I'm still confused on why there's a South American connection to Mesoamerican gods like Quetz. Any ideas why?
Ignorance and lack of research.
They just think everything bellow the US is South America.
I'm willing to bet that it's because TM sees anything below the US as South America.
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