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    That is kind of how the Holy Church's Foundation is quite strong.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    >tfw evangelical bigots power up kirei
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    how powerful are evangelicals in America in Nasuverse?

    Surely there must be some evangelical executioners working in congress, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    So if spiritual invocation lets you get power from the throne for a short while, why dont we see mages use that more often?
    You see what Svin's family and Gray's village went through to make vessels. or even how much effort it took Chaldea to make Mash.
    Now if you're only invoking a portion of the power, the hoops you need to jump through are going to be lesser.
    But the magus still needs to constructed as a vessel for a spirit. And furthermore, that invocation commonly would only be able to take place in a certain area unless you go full OCD eating mashed potatoes.

    "However, when I actually saw the Towers of the Sun and Moon, I was truly impressed. In actualizing the form of the Princess of Gold, you've internalized the motion of the planet into the human body. Certainly, correspondence between the Microcosm and the Macrocosm is a fundamental of magecraft, but rather than incorporating that into your living space, you've incorporated the motion of the planet directly into a human's life. Even if it's an idea proposed often enough, those who are able to actually accomplish it are vanishingly few.

    I imagine your meal times, sleeping schedules, even your bathroom breaks are strictly regulated for time. As it was once said, 'you are what you eat.' The things you put into your body are what make up your physical structure. For example, as a certain emperor attempted in his quest for immortality, the imbibing of mercury isn't actually wrong per se, but if it isn't done with a body built the same way as the stars, then it will just become poison. Understanding that, not just your food and lifestyle, even your environment were made to unify with your physical bodies. Even the leylines in the ground here are the same. Like the styles of magecraft unique to places in the east like Tibet, drawing magical energy forcefully from the earth was probably a daily habit for you.
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    I'm not sure who did that, but knowing mages, the answer is probably "only this person's family knows how to do it".
    p much with the addition of "and they have all the equipment and catalysts to do it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    Gandr is pretty stable since it’s the concept of pointing = cursing. One of the most basic and widespread concepts.
    Wait so what you're telling me is that evil eye could totally be turned into an eye beam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwearpink View Post
    Gandr is pretty stable since it’s the concept of pointing = cursing. One of the most basic and widespread concepts. I imagine a number of common spells are super stable and useful. Probably isn’t diminished in a way that matters beyond general use since it isn’t like anyone is trying to get to the root with them or focuses on it. And/or they’re just part of how magic energy works like reinforcement not actually being a spell but just what happens when you circulate or fill something with magic energy.
    I mean wouldnt it still be reduced in strength since widespread? cause mystery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Wait so what you're telling me is that evil eye could totally be turned into an eye beam?
    Who is Gorgon for 200, Alex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clown View Post
    Can Sacchin's reality marble kill servants?
    Depends. The description specifically targets the environment only so it’d be like cutting off the Servant from their outside energy source for however long the RM lasts and putting them at risk of disappearing if that’s what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    I mean wouldnt it still be reduced in strength since widespread? cause mystery
    Isn't that assumed to be the case already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    I mean wouldnt it still be reduced in strength since widespread? cause mystery
    If the idea is widespread, all that means is that the foundation is everywhere.
    If people knew about the actual magic then you'd be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Who is Gorgon for 200, Alex
    I thought that was some inborn ability though

    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    If the idea is widespread, all that means is that the foundation is everywhere.
    If people knew about the actual magic then you'd be right.
    I guess it's everyone knowing about Jack the Ripper = Jack the Ripper's legend intensifies
    People actually knowing who Jack the Ripper was = Jack the Ripper's "legend" is gone and all we're left with is the reality?

    The issue isn't knowing the Mystery, but the answer to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    I thought that was some inborn ability though


    I guess it's everyone knowing about Jack the Ripper = Jack the Ripper's legend intensifies
    People actually knowing who Jack the Ripper was = Jack the Ripper's "legend" is gone and all we're left with is the reality?

    The issue isn't knowing the Mystery, but the answer to it?
    That doesn't work either, most people don't know things and science doesn't say anything with certainty, if we go complete with perception I'm not sure mystery works there either.

    It seems like there is a finality to mystery in the first place, like there is a objective answer that wipes it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    That doesn't work either, most people don't know things and science doesn't say anything with certainty, if we go complete with perception I'm not sure mystery works there either.

    It seems like there is a finality to mystery in the first place, like there is a objective answer that wipes it away.
    Most people might not know how a combustion engine works, but the information is readily accessible, and they probably know it doesn't involve stone circles and chicken sacrifices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Most people might not know how a combustion engine works, but the information is readily accessible, and they probably know it doesn't involve stone circles and chicken sacrifices.
    True but I think were going too nitty and gritty into it, plus you get the elephant in the room of requiem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Wait so what you're telling me is that evil eye could totally be turned into an eye beam?
    That is the basic fundamental way magecraft works, yeah.

    Tbh a lot of things can be magecraft. Pretty much most things in human anthropology.

    *edit* I say human anthropology like there’s another kind but I suppose it may as well be said with aliens and robots running around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    True but I think were going too nitty and gritty into it, plus you get the elephant in the room of requiem...
    Requiem is supposed to be strange in comparison with the mainline version of the setting by premise.

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    Requiem's also got the fundamental mystery of "how on earth is this even possible" that will presumably be explored in future novels. Something happened in some Holy Grail War to change the setting into Digimon, but what?

    Using it as an example of anything is probably a bad idea until we know what the deal is. For all we know, ~it was all a dream~

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    What does caesers sword do, the description really doesn't help me understand as it seems OP based on how it's described

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    Basically, as long as he keeps succeeding on Luck checks, he keeps hitting the enemy.

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    p much with the addition of "and they have all the equipment and catalysts to do it"

    Didnt FSN also mention that aspect about people using the throne when discussing servants?

    Also, how do the cards in prysma work? How do they allow so many people to use HS powers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    I thought that was some inborn ability though


    I guess it's everyone knowing about Jack the Ripper = Jack the Ripper's legend intensifies
    People actually knowing who Jack the Ripper was = Jack the Ripper's "legend" is gone and all we're left with is the reality?

    The issue isn't knowing the Mystery, but the answer to it?
    That reminds on some stuff of Platons Philosophy i read a while ago ,namely from Mythos and Logos that both Things can be from on angle be complete opposites and from an other are These two complementary approaches to reality, two different ways of understanding the world, one of which is protected by reason, while the other highlights aspects that are difficult to understand rationally

    or like an known Phrase ;as some Stories are so crazy and weird that only the reality can wright such stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    Didnt FSN also mention that aspect about people using the throne when discussing servants?

    Also, how do the cards in prysma work? How do they allow so many people to use HS powers?
    What i recal is that they are Portals that are allowing to summon the Heroic Spirits withhin oneself by crushing the will of the spirit as shown ith the corupted Heros that Ilya co. had to fight as they are majorily beings with just Basic instinct with exception of Gilgamesh whichs Ego cant be defeeated as Miyu used his Card he took Possession of her ,which was one of my favorite Moments . but at one downside is that the Noblephantasm and skills are lower as their regular Servant version
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