Yeah, I remember all of those.Originally Posted by neveron
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It doesn't have any particular barrier-breaking properties and Luminositè Eternèlle withstood Spartacus' fully charged attack, I don't see how that could happen unless I'm missing something from later mats.
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Once and always and nevermore.
I guess it's the assumption due to Karna attacking Jeanne in Apo where she'd have died(?) if not for Siegfried.
I assume it's cuz A rank "in the name of God" barrier NP Vs EX rank God killing NP
So you either God makes barriers stronger than himself, or assume anything french peasent adds to the equation cant be overcome by Indian demi-god
Also I'm pretty sure ranks are supposed to represent this thing and C rank shield nps are gonna fail to block A rank attack nps cuz higher better than lower. Then again VS is a strawberry rank NP so you can counter argue it being higher rank.
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Also based on Apo animation, even if Jeanne can block the attack, can she survive in the middle of the magma field once etternelle runs out?
Uh Kundala isn't EX Rank. VS is and Karna was going to use Brahmastra vs Jeanne not VS.
Don't know what "strawberry rank" is?
I suppose fire is Jeanne's natural weakness, but considering how many Saints survived worse...
I didn't know that anyone, Saint or otherwise, had survived being burnt at the stake...
a weakened version could endure amakusa's anti-fortress meteors
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i think all of the shield NPs we know have blocked higher ranked offensive NPs
Last edited by fire_mountain_30; July 10th, 2020 at 06:13 AM.
To be fair, it isn't an NP with any specific god-killing properties, it's just powerful enough to do it.
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That was because he was so fast she couldn't react in time.
Never said it could pierce LE though, just why people might think so.
wasn't that disproven recently? that it's specifically anti-god or whatever, not just strong enough
It always has been both specifically anti-god and strong enough.
I thought it couldn't be Anti-God because it was designed to kill Sefar and concepts can't do that, only brute strength?
LE has a damage limit represented by the flag tearing. As much as I want to wank Jeanne here, if any single attack could break through it, something from Karna would probably be able to.
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Excalibur was made to kill Sefar, not Vasavi Shakti. Unless there was something in Karna's Extella sidestory I forgot?
That's a load of horseshite, take no offense. Brahmastra/ Brahmastra Kundala aren't EX ranked, and NP ranks never directly match up like that unless it's something explicitly stated (like God Hand). As for surviving the aftermath, that doesn't even bear mention. Karna is not going to create actual magma with his NP and a Servant isn't gonna be bothered by a little residual heat.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Misremembered the "designed" part but this was the quote I was thinking of from this forum.
Was that was a misunderstanding?
You misunderstood what You said, yes. Sefar has an anti-civilization defense, so "complicated" stuff like magical spells and NPs bounce off. But plain old energy beamus still work just fine.
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Once and always and nevermore.
But doesn't that imply VS is a "plain old energy beamu" instead of carrying a "complicated" concept like opposing gods? That's how I read You's post anyways.
Vasavi Shakti is a lightning spear with a concept. The concept does nothing against Sefar, but the lightning spear does something.
Ah, so carrying a concept doesn't mean the whole attack gets invalidated, just the conceptual part. It's not an all-or-nothing thing then. It does sound like at the time You wrote his post he thought VS didn't have a concept though.
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