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[madarra]

My own personal joke is that the 5th is the conversion of time into energy and vice-versa. A E=mc^2 wannabe

[Reign]

Given that it's something to with denial of nothingness I also assumed the multiplying fish and bread out of thin air is related to it, like Comun said.

[madarra]

Also, what ever happened to Stahlin Cahrobe? iirc last time someone said his "Wraith of the First" title was a bad translation? Someone suggested he was the first magician cuz like the first magician, the traces of his existence still lingers?

If not the first magician in guess his title could also be because he's the first ever DAA who is so old and powerful his existential remnants get to be 16th place?

[Comun]

other Question what is actually with the fourth Magic ? as the second is Zelrechts Kaleidscope , the third Heavens fell of the Einzbern and the fift Aokos .

The Fourth hasn't been mentioned by anyone and any shape or form, except for a vague mention that none of other 4 Magicians has any strong opinions about the Fourth. My personal interpretation of this unimpressed reaction is that the Fourth definitely fits the Magic definition of something impossible to magecraft, but it's not anything useful.

[madarra]

If First Magician is Jesus and not accidentally born 358 days to early. And the director of clocktower is 2000 years old, did we ever get anything to hint that it's not him?

[Comun]

Also, what ever happened to Stahlin Cahrobe? iirc last time someone said his "Wraith of the First" title was a bad translation? Someone suggested he was the first magician cuz like the first magician, the traces of his existence still lingers?

Wraith of the First is a correct translation, but "First" could be many things other than just First Magic.

[Kamera]

The director was Solomon's disciple

[Ratman]

I've heard it often referred to as "Denial of Nothingness," but I don't know where that's from, or if I'm remembering something else entirely.

Avenger calls it that in Hollow for one, alongside other things like dissing Primate Murder. I think I've seen the term mentioned before FHA came out, though.

My true pet theory is still that the Fourth is responsible for the concept of Mystery being a thing to such an extent, and is basically globally nerfing Magecraft, and that's actually a good thing.

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Long ago I used to think Merlin was the fourth magician, because of Fou, but then it turned out that referred to an entirely different number four. It would have fit with the age of gods ending with Arthur's reign, though.

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The beginning first changed everything.

The following second acknowledged many.
The resulting third showed the future.
The linking fourth concealed itself.
And the final fifth had already lost its meaning.

Had it only ended at the third, someone had said.

Seems like the hardest disclosure we're going to get until Mahoyo 2 comes out. How does the Third even result form the first two? What is it that makes the Fourth 'linking'?

[Comun]

How does Heaven's Feel shows the future, also?

[madarra]

First created anthropic principle, second created multiple timelines, third is the final future form of humanity, fourth is.... quantum timelocks? fifth is pruning phenomenon... And sixth is just gonna destroy it all.

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Mind you 4th being QTL means that 4th isnt Magic in Extra timeline just like the 3rd... Or maybe just on its way out cuz it's still only the mooncell and not human science

[Asunder]

I think Bazzet mentioned revival of the dead is something that denial of nothingness can do.

[fumei]

Seems like the hardest disclosure we're going to get until Mahoyo 2 comes out. How does the Third even result form the first two? What is it that makes the Fourth 'linking'?

Well I think "resulting" is not entirely correct for 受ける here but I don't know how to put it into proper english so

[Asunder]

What is it that makes the Fourth 'linking'?

Well 4 is death in japan, so true magic based around death would be linked to the 3rd being eternal life? It would be pretty nasu to link an unknown mysterious magic to something that's been around from the start like MEODP.

[forumghost]

I think Bazzet mentioned revival of the dead is something that denial of nothingness can do.

Pretty sure that's something that all the True Magic's we've seen were able to (kinda) do.

Heaven's Feel: Imma take your soul and put it in a new container, You're alive again!
Blue: Imma take the moment of your death and make it a thousand years from now!
Kaleidoscope: Imma chose a different timeline where you didn't die to make canon/grab a you from another timeline!

[Comun]

Oh, maybe it's 受ける as "descending from" because the Third Magic is tied to the Second Magician's disciples.

[Dullahan]

the

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hilarious

fourth

[Comun]

Well 4 is death in japan, so true magic based around death would be linked to the 3rd being eternal life? It would be pretty nasu to link an unknown mysterious magic to something that's been around from the start like MEODP.

Hassan-i-Sabbah is the Fourth Magician, you heard it here first. The linking fourth concealed itself with Rank A Presence Concealment.

[Zurvan]

Clearly the 4th Magician is the Furtive Pygmy

[OverMaster]

Case Files Mats says the user of the First was born the night that BC became AD so it's almost a sure thing that he's Jesus.

Plot twist: It was Brian.

[Dullahan]

typical rookie mistake. lean too much on your crypto-hegelian narrative of world history and you end up writing christian apologia, no matter the set dressing. expect Christ to feature in FGO part 3 and/or the next big Fate product