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    Does the Demon Hunter Organization still exist?

    In Kagetsu Tohya it's mentioned that the Nanaya were going to be attacked, because Kiri Nanaya decided that his clan should leave the Demon Hunter Organization and lost their protection and when they were attacked it's mentioned that the "Landlord from Organization" was bribed by Makihisa not to send help, but I was under the impression that at that point the Nanaya basically were the Demon Hunter Organization, as the other Demon Hunter families retired long ago. Does that imply that the Organization exists/existed beyond the four families?
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    I was just using the term from Shimousa. We know he's a different figure than the Foreign God, at least for a start, but of course isn't the actual satan. I suppose I could have said 'white light' but we don't have a proper name for the one that made a deal with Wodime in Ophelia's flashback yet.

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    it's all gonna be some combo of marisbilly/olga/chaldeas/laplace

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the Animusphere's OC demon, based on Gaia and Sefar more so than on Brunestud. She might have aspects inspired from Arcueid tho, assuming her Archetype Earth's Melty Blood stage really is Avalon, and she's still there in the Lostbelt version.

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    The Association existed during Arthurian times, so has anything ever said if Merlin was part of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aAlouda View Post
    Does the Demon Hunter Organization still exist?

    In Kagetsu Tohya it's mentioned that the Nanaya were going to be attacked, because Kiri Nanaya decided that his clan should leave the Demon Hunter Organization and lost their protection and when they were attacked it's mentioned that the "Landlord from Organization" was bribed by Makihisa not to send help, but I was under the impression that at that point the Nanaya basically were the Demon Hunter Organization, as the other Demon Hunter families retired long ago. Does that imply that the Organization exists/existed beyond the four families?
    There's an unstated implication about Makihisa having two scions of the Fujou as servants in his mansion since their childhood, and the somewhat talented representative in Kara no Kyoukai has no idea about her family background. Fujino seems like she knows a bit more about psychic powers from the get go, esp. considering people like Seo are studying in the school, and it bears her family name. And the school itself is ran by a captain of a chivalric order for some reason.

    Ryougi seem to be doing great (we only see the main line) , but they're seemingly more yakuza than actually bothering with kicking demon ass anymore. Also, they don't mind Shiki marrying the eugenic equivalent of oats.

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    Probably most importantly: While the Fujou might be the Tohno's bitch, the doctor and Kohaku True suggest that Kohaku still has connections to the DHA, and that they are in some way still alive - even the Nanayas did not get completely wiped out.

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    Oh, the 4 original demon hunter families are still around, that wasn't what I meant. We do know that other than the Nanaya's they have all stopped demon hunting long ago.
    Q: Asakami, Fujou, Ryougi, Nanaya are natural enemies of Half-Blood. Besides Nanaya, do the other three houses still hunt Half-Bloods?

    A: The other three houses have done so in the past. However, it is no longer necessary as time goes on. The cash cow... and the basis of the existence of the four houses ----- the enemy known as Half-Blood, have slowly morphed from an evil that threatens the society to a necessary evil.
    The Half-Bloods were no longer worshiped because the existence of the nation, so they compromised with the human society and became organized. They skillfully brought those in positions of power to their cause, and became the ones in power.
    As a result, the Four Demon Hunter Houses could no longer maintain themselves. Some became fallen, others reestablished themselves through other means.
    In the end, the only ones battling the Half-Bloods were the Nanayas. As to why, it was because that was all they were good at.
    The Ryougis and Fujous possessed other "useful" skills besides fighting Half-Bloods, so they focused on those areas instead and survived.
    The fall of Asakami was self-inflicted. They worshiped the captured Half-Bloods as guardian gods, and their lineage became diluted due to the continued interbreeding. In the end, they almost became Half-Bloods themselves. The mummy-hunter became the mummy, such is the tragedy of the Asakamis.
    And we know that even the Nanaya family left the Organisation shortly after the birth of Shiki Nanaya. Yet it's talked about like it still exists in the flashback Kagetsu Tohya(when Shiki Tohno/Nanaya was about 6) and as if they hold power noticably greater than the Nanayas. I am just wondering who would be part of it and if it's still around in the modern nasuverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aAlouda View Post
    And we know that even the Nanaya family left the Organisation shortly after the birth of Shiki Nanaya. Yet it's talked about like it still exists in the flashback Kagetsu Tohya(when Shiki Tohno/Nanaya was about 6) and as if they hold power noticably greater than the Nanayas. I am just wondering who would be part of it and if it's still around in the modern nasuverse.
    In Japan this can refer to:
    ① A person (or group of people) who works to repair the natural order of things that has been twisted and warped (by demons).
    ② A magic family or bloodline that refines their techniques in order to protect society.
    ③ The Demon Hunter Organization
    ④ As far as ① and ② are concerned, people in these categories generally don’t have powers that are suited to bringing harm to people. They generally remain passive/defensive when faced with a mixed-blood adversary who is on the borderline of being human.
    sounds like magi and some admin
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    A lot of what happened in the Fuyuki Grail War was covered by the Muggle media as "gas leaks" and "gas explosions". Were there any mind tricks used, or are Muggles just that gullible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalLoliLover View Post
    A lot of what happened in the Fuyuki Grail War was covered by the Muggle media as "gas leaks" and "gas explosions". Were there any mind tricks used, or are Muggles just that gullible?
    yes
    On the surface, the strange incident not far from the Mion River was attributed to poisonous gases produced by chemical reactions caused by industrial waste--this report could temporarily deceive the public. The patrolling media truck was also constantly broadcasting that inhaling the toxic fumes could cause hallucinations, and that people living along the shores should hasten to the hospital for treatment. Of course, all the hospitals that could conduct diagnostics at night had already been infiltrated by magi and Executors skilled in brainwashing through the power of suggestion; they were currently anxiously awaiting orders. It should be possible to thus eliminate the majority of witness statements, but not the source of rumors.
    but also pizzagate
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    When did the concealment of mystics become policy in the magus community? It can't of been from the inception of the association since there's been mages and the like in the public eye well after that, so when did they start enforcing it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CO9p5JMGv!p9 View Post
    it's all gonna be some combo of marisbilly/olga/chaldeas/laplace
    Indeed, I know that's much more likely, I'm more just wanting to know if it's confirmed to be something like that and if we can completely rule out some figure from history. I remember with Part 1's villain once they showed up any conversation on who they really might be got shut down pretty quick, even though Romani wasn't that sure for a start. And then of course, it wasn't who it was originally presented as. They've done a lot more to keep the identity of the FG a secret, and there's inconsistencies with the timeline, knowledge or actions from anyone from Chaldeas. I'd even say that Sherlock's presence is an indication that it won't be fully something like CHALDEA or LAPLACE, since that's not a whodunnit, but more a whatdunnit, and relies more on understanding the science behind the magic (which I doubt very few do), something you'd expect a scientist like Da Vinci to solve rather than Sherlock, even though he claims it's his mission.

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    Why didn't Merlin simply plant the sperm he harvested from pseudo-male Artoria into Guinevere? Seems to me like having the queen give birth to an heir is a way better plan than whatever Mordred was supposed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Consensus View Post
    Why didn't Merlin simply plant the sperm he harvested from pseudo-male Artoria into Guinevere? Seems to me like having the queen give birth to an heir is a way better plan than whatever Mordred was supposed to be.
    Morgan "harvested" it first
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    And there wasn't anything left over to inseminate Guinevere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Morgan "harvested" it first
    huh, in my head i remembered that merlin was the one who harvested it. still sirgau does bring up an interesting point.

    also hey You, it's been a while, hope you're doing well

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    Merlin gave her a dick for whatever reason to justify how the narrative of her being a father could still fit despite her now being a girl

    Morgana stole her sperm
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Morgan "harvested" it first
    Αnd what I wouldn't give for a description of exactly how THAT happened, R-18 content optional but highly encouraged.

    Come on, Nasu, it's not like you have an artistic integrity to be compromising.
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