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[Leftovers]

Herk math in 2022, swear to god

12 lives (11 resurrections) -> killed 6 times by Archer -> 6 lives (5 resurrections) -> killed 1 time by Rin -> 5 lives (4 resurrections) -> overkilled 7 times by Caliburn -> -2 lives (no rez)

The only tricky thing to keep in mind is that God Hand = 11 resurrections + Herk's original life. Lives regen doesn't matter in the VN because he either loses them all in one day or get killed so much the regen wouldn't matter. At any rate the timeframe is something cooked up with an anime-specific cause (even though it doesn't matter there either):

Why was Heracles unscathed even after getting hit by Archer's A-rank Noble Phantasm, Caladbolg? He couldn't have nullified it, so did he just endure the full brunt of the attack?

N: Oh, that. In the original work, it was like "Even though none of the attacks up until then had been worth dodging, that one alone would be fatal so Berserker intercepted it, and there was catastrophic damage from the explosion."
In the anime, on the other hand, Berserker couldn't respond due to the fatal wound he had taken from Saber, so he took the attack head-on, lost another life, and regenerated. So he lost two lives in total.
T: Ah, so that's why God Hand needed three days to regenerate in the anime version!

It's more to emphasise that Illya is the sugoiest Master.

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That said, there is another interpretation of this:

VN -> Lost one life, regenerated in ? days
Anime -> Lost two lives, regenerated in 3 days instead

Which considering the awkwardness of straight-up division might indicate that it's a total lives stock regen that takes more time relative to the lives lost?

[You]

Which considering the awkwardness of straight-up division might indicate that it's a total lives stock regen that takes more time relative to the lives lost?

no lets try fitting a non-liner model and publish in journal of geeks studies

[Leftovers]

You go ahead, I lost my license after one WMG post too many.

[Jesse1089]

Herk math in 2022, swear to god

12 lives (11 resurrections) -> killed 6 times by Archer -> 6 lives (5 resurrections) -> killed 1 time by Rin -> 5 lives (4 resurrections) -> overkilled 7 times by Caliburn -> -2 lives (no rez)

The only tricky thing to keep in mind is that God Hand = 11 resurrections + Herk's original life. Lives regen doesn't matter in the VN because he either loses them all in one day or get killed so much the regen wouldn't matter. At any rate the timeframe is something cooked up with an anime-specific cause (even though it doesn't matter there either):



It's more to emphasise that Illya is the sugoiest Master.

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That said, there is another interpretation of this:

VN -> Lost one life, regenerated in ? days
Anime -> Lost two lives, regenerated in 3 days instead

Which considering the awkwardness of straight-up division might indicate that it's a total lives stock regen that takes more time relative to the lives lost?

It doesn't matter...but it is interesting to know how many times he died because that would give an indication of how he "surpassed his own myth"...at least for me...

[Leftovers]

As you observed in a previous post of yours, breaking free of Enkidu after being killed to death is double-impossible, which is what makes it impressive.

…I don't even need to check if he's alive or not.
Even if he is a great hero that overcame ten deaths, he should not be able to get up after receiving twenty.
…Yes.
Even if he is alive, he should not even have the power to breathe.

Whether he still had a life left or came back from permadeath is kind of secondary to the act itself.

[Jesse1089]

As you observed in a previous post of yours, breaking free of Enkidu after being killed to death is double-impossible, which is what makes it impressive.





Whether he still had a life left or came back from permadeath is kind of secondary to the act itself.

I guess you're right ... that would explain Gil's last words more clearly: "You surpass your own to the very end" ... in the end it doesn't matter how many lives he had left or if he had already passed the maximum number of resurrections ... what matters is that he recovered from a mortal wound and escaped from the chains of heaven ...

[kohaku]

Except... they did that.

The Tohsakas "own the land" as they oversee Fuyuki as a House.

The Greater Grail literally sits on the city's ley line and siphons the life of the land to initiate the ritual.

Why do you think the magic circle was strategically carved below the temple in the cavern?

It is Tohsaka land in the Magus's society, not human's society. Kerry buy his house from Taiga's family, not from Tohsaka.
They have 200 years to prepare. Even when Tohsaka is collapsed, Rin's budget still around 10,000,000 yen x ???. And Einzbern is far more wealthy than Tohsaka. Einzbern+Matou+Tohsaka, even if they just buy 1/4 or 1/2 of the Fuyuki land, it will help to reduce the casualties very much.

But they just keep complain about " in the modern age, even the territory of the far east country now full of people. It is very difficult to keep magecraft in secret from them.".

[Alfredo845]

It is Tohsaka land in the Magus's society, not human's society. Kerry buy his house from Taiga's family, not from Tohsaka.
They have 200 years to prepare. Even when Tohsaka is collapsed, Rin's budget still around 10,000,000 yen x ???. And Einzbern is far more wealthy than Tohsaka. Einzbern+Matou+Tohsaka, even if they just buy 1/4 or 1/2 of the Fuyuki land, it will help to reduce the casualties very much.

But they just keep complain about " in the modern age, even the territory of the far east country now full of people. It is very difficult to keep magecraft in secret from them.".

And what happens after they get the land?
What would be your excuse for evicting all these people and business?

How to get back all that money invested?
How did they deal with the attention that such action would attract?

[kohaku]

And what happens after they get the land?
What would be your excuse for evicting all these people and business?

How to get back all that money invested?
How did they deal with the attention that such action would attract?

200 years ago, Fuyuki's people is fewer than they are in the present-day.

if they can buy a forest, why it is the trouble if they buy a city? Turn 500km2 ( we know Fuyuki actually created follow the Kobe city in the real world) to the national park. Or create the huge gas leak or something, and " this land is very dangerous. Please stay away from it.". If they can have compromise with even Japan's JSDF, why not? If they keep pay the tax, the government doesn't care.

In the reality, several private landowners own more these land which larger than even that city:

https://www.onemorehectare.com/en/la...s-in-the-world

You think the money they used to find relic of Angra Mainyu, Arthur and Gilgamesh's relic is cheaper than buy the territory?

" How to get back all that money invested?" - > Yeah. It is my question,too. Where these money from? How can these Magus so wealthy like that? Wealthy enough to buy the old and unique relic for every HGW, and never ask any question about " How to get back all that money invested?".

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The more serious question: What Einzbern trying to do with HGW?

I mean, I know they are trying to recreat 3th True Magic. But, how?
Illya is collapsed after she "received" 5 Servant ( Fate route). How can she can defeat the last Servant to win the war? And even if she can, does she still healthy enough to finish the ritual?

And even if she finished the ritual, what will happen after that? She will die and the Greater Grail will collapse forever ( as same as HF true end)? Or Greater Grail will become the 3th True Magic machine, always there for anyone to use?

And, it looks like Einzbern doesn't care about Angra Mainyu or the mud at all. Why? Anga Mainyu will be prevented from give birth, if Illya finishes her ritual? Or they simply doesn't care even if the mud will destroy the world?

[TomPen94]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know the name of the track that plays at the start of Section 21 in Avalon le Fae?

just in case

Right at the start, just after the jingle.

Not the first time I hear it either. Been trying to find it but no luck so far.

[Ideofago]

Are you seriously complaining about some bullshit city buying made up tangent as a plot hole and then asking what was the Einzbern reason to want the Holy Grail?

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone know the name of the track that plays at the start of Section 21 in Avalon le Fae?

just in case

Right at the start, just after the jingle.

Not the first time I hear it either. Been trying to find it but no luck so far.

Forbidden Advent Garden: Salem

[TomPen94]

Much appreciated.

[kohaku]

Are you seriously complaining about some bullshit city buying made up tangent as a plot hole and then asking what was the Einzbern reason to want the Holy Grail?

"buying city" just the discussion more than the question. And it is the question for the Three Families of 19th century, not about the generation of Rin. It is too late already.

The question about Einzbern is more serious question.

[Ideofago]

The reason anybody other than main dumbasses want the holy grail is because holy grail = magical energy jackpot nuke of doom.

[Araya's Dry Cleaner]

It is Tohsaka land in the Magus's society, not human's society. Kerry buy his house from Taiga's family, not from Tohsaka.
They have 200 years to prepare. Even when Tohsaka is collapsed, Rin's budget still around 10,000,000 yen x ???. And Einzbern is far more wealthy than Tohsaka. Einzbern+Matou+Tohsaka, even if they just buy 1/4 or 1/2 of the Fuyuki land, it will help to reduce the casualties very much.

But they just keep complain about " in the modern age, even the territory of the far east country now full of people. It is very difficult to keep magecraft in secret from them.".

As a mage, why would you be interested in who owns the deed of the land lol.

If you want to hide things, the last thing you would want to do is buy a city and leave it empty lol.

I completely fail to see your logic. The best way to hide things is to make it look like nothing is happening, and everything is going as it should.

[Glazy]

Where's the comment that F/SF servants are not allowed in FGO come form?

[Kirishima]

Where's the comment that F/SF servants are not allowed in FGO come form?

Reddit.

[Nanashi(kari)]

And /fgog/.

[Reign]

Do we know what department Waver took classes in as a student? Kayneth was the Lord of Mineralogy but whenever we see Waver in his class they're never talking about minerals, so I assume he was lecturing for a different department.