Quite a crack fic imo. I saw some Vlov x Ciel long ago, and I still find that plausible. But that one is just...Originally Posted by L.H.S
Quite a crack fic imo. I saw some Vlov x Ciel long ago, and I still find that plausible. But that one is just...
How would Shirou have died exactly if Archer didn't give his arm?
You tell me they can literally replace a pierced heart, yet they can't stop the bleeding of an arm (which doesn't even require magecraft, and from the looks of it Shirou wasn't immediately dying from blood loss, as they had time to take him to the church and all)?
And in the first place, they can even heal lost limbs or even have puppet limbs, so Shirou wouldn't even remain without that arm if he wanted to fix it (I mean they make an entire body for him at the end of the VN).
Rin doesn’t exactly have her pendant on hand anymore. Replacing Shirou’s heart was a miracle that Rin needed to use her Ace in the Hole to save. They don’t have anything like that on hand.
Touko is not around for stay night, he would have bled out by the time they got in contact with her. They simply didn’t have other materials to fix the arm on hand, it’s not exactly easy.
Who are you expecting to replace an entire arm? They were all dying or unconscious.
They're also in the middle of a war, they need the firepower.
Also his doctor gets off on him suffering.
What do you think type sun look or if it exists at all
Do you think Tamamo is as strong crimson moon ???
Amaterasu is, sadly, your answer
How I even more confused ��
You know, they can just... take him to a regular hospital, and surely if they can reattach an entire arm, they can also just stop the bleeding.
The thing is the VN makes it look like there was no other way for Shirou to live, like they had to do this.
Again, they're all knocked out. Who are you saying is available to hypnotize a doctor into working without asking questions about how the group got messed up that bad.
Probably doesn't exist. There are no hints of any sort of life existing on the sun, either sentient or non-sentient.
No God is as strong as Crimson Moon.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
Tsukihime 2 Prelude III
To answer more succinctly, there is unlikely to be such a thing as a Type Sun. What we do have however is "nine tailed Tamamo/Golden Fox/Amaterasu" (note that these aren't actually the same entity, but for this question they are close enough), with Amaterasu being noted as an entity that outscales Arcueid, within the Moon Cell. Amaterasu is further noted to be more powerful than Sefar, so it paints a picture that as far as solar entities go, Amaterasu is the powerhouse in the verse.
Hope it helps, but if you asked in an effort to find out who beats Crimson Moon there are other, dare I say better answers.
I don’t think Amy has any reason not to be
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In addition to what Comun said, it’s an hour to get there by Taxi and you can’t call one from there so you typically have to walk unless you just hitch hike a random person which is a crapshoot. And not something anyone was in condition for.
You like, massively underestimate how big a deal losing an arm is lol
Why? What would even be the logic here? Ignoring the fact CM's abilities are a complete mystery at this point. But if you consider Crimson Moon comparable to full power Arc then Amaterasu is not going to hold much of a candle to him outside Extra worlds.
Arc is weaker in the Extra verse and is no longer the strongest there, as opposed to regular settings:
This is explicitly within the context of Gods btw. So it's not only taking into account the things lying around in the dead world of Extra Earth, but everything else as well:
Later we're told among the Extra and CCC characters she is only one that can make Amaterasu beatable. Key word here is within Extra and CCC, meaning it's within the context of that particular setting since other Extra and CCC characters are being considered as well:
Amaterasu died to Sefar despite supposedly having a numerical advantage. Excalibur as well as Zeus merged with the rest of his pantheon killed Sefar. Ereshkigal Alter was also stated by Dumucid to be capable of destroying Sefar with her Gugalanna legs, yet she couldn't do much of anything against a subspecies ORT without it's heart.
Meanwhile what we know of CM is that his mere blood can empower vampires to the level of Gods and his blood can also overwrite the Akashic Records of the one infected and turn them into vampires:
Those who become vampires can no longer oppose CM. So both ORT and Zelretch are CM's pawns in TsukiR:
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
Tsukihime 2 Prelude III
Why is Sefar relevant here? This was the one time Nasu did actual powerlevel math to say that Hakumen had more energy but Sefar still own because her anti-civilization gimmick makes her super effective against gods, so I can't see it as a good example. Unless Brunestud also has some trait advantage against gods I'm not remembering. I could easily believe he does because Idea Blood is about corroding the human world, but I can't think of any real hints toward that. Doesn't sound like an interaction that will ever come up in a story.
I just feel like Sun>Moon has kinda been a theme in TM, isn’t that part of the reason Tamamo was capable of fucking with Moon Cell stuff like not being deleted in the first place? And the Moon Cell is one of those ultra McGuffins that Nasu generally makes able to do anything (more or less), and is also another entity called TYPE-MOON. If nothing else I just assume Amy has a type advantage against Moon entities.
If he can turn ORT into a vampire, he can enslave Gods too. He is the most virulent existence in TM works. The reason there are no gods among the 27 is likely because he showed up near the end of the AoG.
But yeah, lots of unknowns about him. Rainbow Eyes, knight arm, even the Millenium Castle has special properties, most of which are unknown.
There has never been such type advantage mentioned in CCC or outside to my knowledge. Tamamo can turn off the Moon Cell because she is powerful enough to do it (God Servants are stated to be capable of negating the Moon Cell firewall), and Karna's armor is powerful enough to endure deletion from either the Moon Cell or Arjuna Alter's NP.
If you have some more concrete instances I would love to see them.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
Tsukihime 2 Prelude III
I think we're trying to conflate settings too much. Basically the only notable relevance the sun has in vamp world is its effect on vampires(which powerful ones overcome) and the theme of obfuscating the truth of the world that the Moon, with its association to death, reveals.
Yeah, but even so I don't really remember any explicit sun > moon references even in Extra and other Fate content other than maybe this one instance. which could be poetic for his divine armor just being very strong conceptually, rather than a sun > moon relationship. It's not like moon is an actual alignment.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
Tsukihime 2 Prelude III
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