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    Oh you are translating extra into another language? Oh good luck

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    Why does no one seems to remember or acknowledge Gudak/o can do substitution jutsu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementee View Post
    Why does no one seems to remember or acknowledge Gudak/o can do substitution jutsu?
    They've only ever done it in like two(?) events not in the main story and event canonicity is basically "maybe it happened, maybe it didn't"

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    Since when can Shadow Servants Gudao summon can talk?...

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    Was Zouken respected in the Clock Tower or in general when he was still Zolgen and his family was still the Makiri?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takashi View Post
    Oh you are translating extra into another language? Oh good luck
    Oh no, TM stuff has just turned into this project that I go through with friends. Makes it a lot more enjoyable in many ways.
    Manga just ends up being the worst medium for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementee View Post
    Since when can Shadow Servants Gudao summon can talk?...
    I don't think there's any real reason why they shouldn't be able to. It's just that Guda isn't able to materialize them for long, hence why they're only ever used in battle. I'd imagine that if absolutely necessary, they might be able to summon one for a few minutes to get their input on something, but I'd imagine that there's a limit to how much information can be conveyed in the short amount of time they have. If they need a Servant for more than just fighting the enemies that are immediately in front of them, it's usually better to do a proper summoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciel View Post
    Was Zouken respected in the Clock Tower or in general when he was still Zolgen and his family was still the Makiri?
    More than likely, he is the one who created HGW formula. That's no easy feat, he also had ethical values unlikely majority of mages and a holy goal. So that would probably help his reputation (at least in eyes of magi who also has ethical values).

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    To be honest, I don't think "ethical values" of the likes of Zolgen's are that unusual among magi. If anything, a common theme with certain magi is that those who possess talent and power often seem inclined to use them for what they believe to be the "greater good". They have lofty ideals, ambition to realize those ideals and a sense of purpose that compels them to believe that they are obligated to do so. Zolgen, Darnic and Kirschtaria shared this quality. Even less talented magi like Kiritsugu and non-magi like Twice feel compelled to achieve their ideals once they learn of the Holy Grail's power. The world is "wrong", and thus it is their responsibility to "correct" it. FGO has a lot of them as well.

    Meanwhile, the heroes tend to be those with no wishes of their own, who oppose the usage of the Grail's power for such world-changing purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacelamp View Post
    I don't think there's any real reason why they shouldn't be able to. It's just that Guda isn't able to materialize them for long, hence why they're only ever used in battle. I'd imagine that if absolutely necessary, they might be able to summon one for a few minutes to get their input on something, but I'd imagine that there's a limit to how much information can be conveyed in the short amount of time they have. If they need a Servant for more than just fighting the enemies that are immediately in front of them, it's usually better to do a proper summoning.
    Have there any instances where they talk?
    Last edited by Clementee; January 4th, 2025 at 06:10 AM.

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    Not to my recollection. Temporary Servants usually don't appear directly in the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciel View Post
    Was Zouken respected in the Clock Tower or in general when he was still Zolgen and his family was still the Makiri?
    The head of the Spiritual Evocation department kept his diary/essays and considered him a "dreamer", so probably.
    Last edited by All fictions; January 4th, 2025 at 09:32 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spacelamp View Post
    Not to my recollection. Temporary Servants usually don't appear directly in the story.
    Then there is no reason to assume they can talk, they are practically mindless too with their only mind is like AI following Ritsuka's order.

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    If a the Holy Grail manages to grant a wish to a winner, would still be future rituals or with the purpose fulfilled there is no need for more?

    I mean I ask since in Fuyuki there was never a winner and I thought the wars continued due that, or is supposed to always be there every 60 years forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciel View Post
    If a the Holy Grail manages to grant a wish to a winner, would still be future rituals or with the purpose fulfilled there is no need for more?

    I mean I ask since in Fuyuki there was never a winner and I thought the wars continued due that, or is supposed to always be there every 60 years forever?
    The point is to reach the root, there would be little need to continue after that.

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    But one thing I have a doubt: If Artoria dies in the Wars that she took part before reaching the end, her soul will not go to the Grail but back to Camlann? Thus it does means in those wars is impossible to reach the root as there will never be Seven Servants souls?

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    That was only the Fourth and the Grail was fucked anyway.

    Not to mention that it did work in the 5th as Illiya demonstrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciel View Post
    But one thing I have a doubt: If Artoria dies in the Wars that she took part before reaching the end, her soul will not go to the Grail but back to Camlann? Thus it does means in those wars is impossible to reach the root as there will never be Seven Servants souls?
    Speaking of Camlann, Fate doesn't specify where that is supposed to be within Britain by any chance does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Link0306 View Post
    The point is to reach the root, there would be little need to continue after that.
    But it isn't for other contendars, only 3 families (up until 5th war) and some other magi tries to use it for Root. What if against all odds an outsider wins?

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    My guess is that it can re-manifest itself in the future even after fullfilling a wish. Technically nothing should stop it from refilling energy from leylines and become active again in 60 or so years, I think.

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