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    Why does it seem like the english speaking fans remember fake stuff way more than real details

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift+CTRL+ALT+Delete View Post
    He did? When?

    This sounds vaguely familar to me, but I can't remember exactly where its from.
    It’s in stay night too:

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    "It'll die, or..."

    "Yes. Adapting to the water would be all it could do.

    She would've had great success as a magus of Tohsaka, but she's no different from you because she was forced to change into a magus of Matou.

    No, you're much stronger than her because you train your body."
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
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    The fake LB6 spoiler I saw most frequently was "the fairies made Vortigern into Oberon by giving him the name" usually accompained by "just like they can take names in folklore."
    Even I believed it for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    The fake LB6 spoiler I saw most frequently was "the fairies made Vortigern into Oberon by giving him the name" usually accompained by "just like they can take names in folklore."
    Even I believed it for a long time.
    Ain't that an actual thing? Fairies turned a part of his saint graph into Oberon..and the land also radiating the name of ancient fairy Oberon made him into actual Oberon but being mixed it with Oberon :king of fairies of phh well because fairies thought its that
    It was a thing when I read the chapter unless I am hallucinating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    Huh, I don't think I've ever heard this one. The only fake spoilers I remember being really persistent were "Beryl kidnapped Mash in Olympus" and "Avengers gone to Antarctica".
    RIP that one person who got super excited for Merlin Alter.

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    I liked the fake Olympus spoiler about humans making slaves of the gods through prayer hacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    i liked the fake Olympus spoiler about humans making slaves of the gods through prayer hacking.
    Unironically more interesting than what we got.
    Petri's arbitrary limit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    I liked the fake Olympus spoiler about humans making slaves of the gods through prayer hacking.
    Sounds like something straight outta Big O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie25 View Post
    It’s in stay night too:
    Oh, that's where I read it! Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Why does it seem like the english speaking fans remember fake stuff way more than real details
    Misinformation is really easy to spread, and it's really hard to get rid of. There's a quote from Mark Twain that I think exemplifies this phenomenon well, "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." The ironic thing is this quote was likely never said by Mark Twain, so it itself is an example of misinformation spreading around.
    You are not immune to propoganda, probably.


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    I believe that usually, the temporary summons are just used as backup for the Servants who are actually there, like Mash or whoever they've made a provisional contract with. Caster Cu uses them to his advantage in LB6 where he was able to hold off Melusine thanks to their help via positioning.

    When Ritsuka beats a much stronger opponent with JUST these temporary Servants, such as against Tezcatlipoca and Daybit, it's meant to be a testament to their superiority as a Master. Like ordinarily, strength in numbers isn't really a thing since, as seen time and time again, an overwhelmingly superior enemy like Odysseus can easily mow through a dozen Masterless Servants entirely on his own. But when a proper Master is added to the equation, 1+1 isn't just 1 anymore. This is why Crypters like Beryl and Daybit consider Ritsuka to be the strongest Master. Having over two years of experience both commanding and fighting against countless Servants gives them a unique edge that very few other Masters can replicate. Take note that most standard Holy Grail Wars typically don't last longer than two weeks or so. The Lunar Holy Grail War only lasts a little less than three months. In addition to strength in numbers, they can also take advantage of Servant synergy and affinity. Affinity is almost everything in Fate, so you can think of it like whenever Ritsuka runs into a Fire/Fighting Emboar, their immediate response is to summon seven Duckletts to take it on. I think the Shimousa manga is a very good example of this. "Our enemy's a turbo-mommy, so I'll use my anti-mommy to take her down. Her fog should also neutralize the drunkard's boozemist."

    LB7 was funny because Ritsuka lost a lot oftheir advantages. We've been told time and time again since Fate/stay night that losing all your Command Spells is a death sentence for a Master, but Ritsuka's just like "Whatever, I still have three Duckletts. I'll make do."

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    How does Shiki fight so well in Tsukhime? For Shirou he can like download the skills of everyone but how does Shiki still remembers and still perform like Nanaya training that he like forgot and hasn't practise it since he was a kid? I know he got special body and MEODP helps.
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    Raw talent. That's just what it boils down to. Shiki's entire thing is that he doesn't have to work hard, his sheer talent makes up for all his deficiencies and then some. He's a mega-prodigy who coasts by through every fight with nothing more than inborn talent.

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    "Talent" feels like the wrong word. Shiki is the product of a mulitgenerational scheme to produce people who are suited to nothing but killing oni. It's innate, but deliberate, nothing so spontaneous as talent.
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    It isn't JUST talent. The point is he aped his father when he was a kid and learned Nanaya techniques that way. It's like muscle memory, you don't forget those things.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glazy View Post
    How does Shiki fight so well in Tsukhime? For Shirou he can like download the skills of everyone but how does Shiki still remembers and still perform like Nanaya training that he like forgot and hasn't practise it since he was a kid? I know he got special body and MEODP helps.
    Selective inbreeding.

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    Arach does say he’s like, what, one in a thousand specimen in Re too
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    No, she says his body has the kind of talent that's only born once per decade. Narbareck says the same thing about Roa interestingly enough.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    They're all just knights? Surely that's a weird naming convetion for two categories to be the exact same even in Japanese.
    It's a fairly common tradition in gnostic/christian traditions (don't know enough about islamic/judaic to broaden into abrahamic) to refer to groups of things by their quantity; the monad, the dyad, the triad, and the tetrad are foundational concepts in phytagoreanism, for example. It's a very handy way to give an esoteric feel to something with the appropriate context known beforehand.
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    I found it where I read vortigern turning into Oberon by welsh fairies..it was here..https://youtu.be/G7Ei5LPjECA?si=XjBuZgbePdEnG6CK

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    Thought I was hallucinating..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ideofago View Post
    It's a fairly common tradition in gnostic/christian traditions (don't know enough about islamic/judaic to broaden into abrahamic) to refer to groups of things by their quantity; the monad, the dyad, the triad, and the tetrad are foundational concepts in phytagoreanism, for example. It's a very handy way to give an esoteric feel to something with the appropriate context known beforehand.
    Sure but no one is looking at the Seven Deadly Sins and saying "the two categories, the four deadly sins AND the three deadly sins..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Sure but no one is looking at the Seven Deadly Sins and saying "the two categories, the four deadly sins AND the three deadly sins..."
    On a convoluted and roundabout way, Dante Alighieri technically is.
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