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  1. #17621
    Superior, actually. True Magic can't touch on dat sheet.

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    Not really. It's on the level of true magic because it can shut out true magic, but that doesn't mean it's better than any of the others.

  3. #17623
    I don't think a fortress necessarily has to be rooted in position but rather usually is that way.


  4. #17624
    So Avalon's a plane now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoReverse View Post
    I don't think a fortress necessarily has to be rooted in position but rather usually is that way.

    That's American, not Wapanese.

    Wapanese language and concepts do not follow gaijin rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    That's American, not Wapanese.

    Wapanese language and concepts do not follow gaijin rules.
    Fine:

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    That's a 城 (Castle), not a 要塞 (fortress).

    l2Nasu, lol

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    Didn't the Moonlit World translate it as Anti-Castle? Close enough =)

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    Well, no, they translated 城 as castle, which makes sense because it's castle.

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    So here's the moral of this Japanese language and culture lesson.

    In Japan, castles can potentially move, fortresses don't (unless it is metaphorically).

    Get it now?

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    It all stems back to the transfer of the capital from Kyoto to Tokyo in the 1800s, trufax.

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    If we are talking about Howl's Moving Castle, it all goes back to some boy asking the author to name her next book "The Moving Castle". Actual trufax, unless Diana Wynne Jones lies to use in the foreword.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

  13. #17633
    Yo', here's a new fan of Type-Moon coming and asking for some helpful info about the story he just finished. I watched Fate/Zero, decided to read Fate/Stay Night, and was then left with some unanswered questions. If someone was kind enough to provide answers, I would be thankful (:

    So, I just finished the Heaven Feel's route in Fate/Stay Night, and was little confused about this Saber Alter -case. What I gathered from her short comments and evil actions, she was corrupted because of Angra Mainyu - but I would like to know exactly what happened, was Saber just forced to serve Sakura, or were her actions result of her inner darkness came forth because of corruption? It would be interesting to know as whole how that corruption -thingy worked, and were there some kind of changes in addition of cool black smoke effects and magical girl transformation to gothic style.

    And then, the sequal of Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. Before I try that, I would like to know what should I expect;

    this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2vRu...640965A6101BA3

    or this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-nPT...eature=related

    Nothing else right know, thank for those who enlighten my mortal mind .


    EDIT: Oh, yeah. I've considered to play other Type-Moon works, but don't know really where I should start. Is there some kind of list where I can check all works with their sequals in chronological order? Would be helpful.
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    About Blackening Servants.
    Blackening of Servants
    The black mud in the Holy Grail contaminates the souls of those who touch it. It goes without saying for mere humans, and supernatural beings like Servants are no exception to this either. The contaminated person's personality reverses toward the orientation of evil. This is madness caused by touching Angra Mainyu. This is called "blackening". There are those who can use the black mud as part of their own power thanks to the properties of its contamination and those whose powerful egos have stayed back its mental pollution.
    An example of the former is Matou Sakura and the latter is Gilgamesh. The blackened Servant is incarnated by the power of the Grail so the more concrete ties to the physical plane turns them into powerful beings.
    Their physical interference power increases but at the same time they lose the ability to return to spirit form.
    Also, as they no longer bother to restrain their magic energy consumption, their fighting ability jumps significantly. This momentum can be compared to a runaway train.
    Because they are in that state, fine control is not possible, but in exchange, their destructive power increases.
    They are fearful beings inflicting havoc and death upon the world. These are blackened Servants.

    Saber Alternative
    Altria after being defeated by Hasan in the HF route and absorbed and incarnated by the black shadow is called Saber Alternative or Black Saber. Dark Saber receives an enormous amount of magic energy from blackened Sakura, and for that very reason, she can shoot Excalibur without limit (whether this means fire it unlimited times or something else, can't be sure). Because of that, she can overwhelm Hercules, who became a Berserker, even in a head-on fight. Losing her limitations and gaining in one way more power than she had when she was alive, she is probably, without dispute, the strongest Servant.

    A summary done by arai. Not exactly the translation, but the important stuff's there.



    Quote Originally Posted by Malornarys View Post
    EDIT: Oh, yeah. I've considered to play other Type-Moon works, but don't know really where I should start. Is there some kind of list where I can check all works with their sequals in chronological order? Would be helpful.
    http://www.blackss.org/moonlit/index.htm

    Have a look at the titles listed in the navigation bar at the top of the page. Play/read through everything, then you are about 80% good. After that, read this forum everyday to stay up to date.



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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    About Blackening Servants.



    A summary done by arai. Not exactly the translation, but the important stuff's there.





    http://www.blackss.org/moonlit/index.htm

    Have a look at the titles listed in the navigation bar at the top of the page. Play/read through everything, then you are about 80% good. After that, read this forum everyday to stay up to date.



    EDIT:

    O, and welcome to the coven of the Beast's Lair.

    Join the primordial chaos!
    Thanks for summary, link and welcoming. Thinks are mostly cleared now, you have been very helpful . Well then, off we go to absorb that site -->

  16. #17636
    In Fate Zero the blackening is attributed to her obsession to obtain the Holy Grail, so blaming Angra Mainyu entirely isn't cool. Just putting that out there.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malornarys View Post
    Thanks for summary, link and welcoming. Thinks are mostly cleared now, you have been very helpful . Well then, off we go to absorb that site -->
    http://tatari.byethost33.com/fuyuki/index.htm

    Also, this is useful to bookmark. It is essentially the BL vocabulary book.

    It's not the most up to date, but it is the best place to start.

    You can learn the meta-stuff on the forum as you go with the rest of us, ahahahahaha.

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    Would Alexander be able to be blackened, or is he just too awesome for the Grail mud?
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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    In Fate Zero the blackening is attributed to her obsession to obtain the Holy Grail, so blaming Angra Mainyu entirely isn't cool. Just putting that out there.
    But she didn't have any contact with it if I recall. At least not to the extent we see in HF, so I don't think you're quite right.
    There is a difference between all consuming rage and blackening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Would Alexander be able to be blackened, or is he just too awesome for the Grail mud?
    I think that would be hard to speculate. Maybe if you had fewer regrets, or were completely sure of yourself, who knows.



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  20. #17640
    I think he hints at the end of Fate Zero of being disillusioned with his dream. Also no huge ego, nor is he a Reverse Heroic Spirit like Archer and Assassin.

    ^
    Her eyes were turning the tell tale gold.
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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