For what it's worth my personal fanon is that he had trouble with the poison because it was already mixing with khaki and he was trying to get his eyes to find a death that didn't also kill khaki. Remember he gets eyestrain when he does something his eyes aren't good at.
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Yeah, he heals the poison's damage with the stab, not just removing the poison. So he's going further than just killing the poison within.
Not sure if nickname or autocorrect.
More than a few warp reality, and if Shirou goes serious he can project the skill/speed of servants as well. You know, like he did with Nine Lives. Shiki is not servant fast.
He managed to see it and block it that time, so what if it broke his defense these "other" times. It doesn't change the fact that he blocked it once and clearly saw it coming.He couldn't stop Hrunting either- not only did he fail to stop it, it would still have come round and killed him after destroying his greatest defence.
He can see it moving. Yes, I know that. He can't react to it if he doesn't know it's coming beforehand, though. See all the other times Hrunting killed him.
Like a fox .U crazy.
He clearly didn't do a good job considering Kohaku got brain damage and lost her memories.
Autocorrect.
Well, I'm considering she didn't have non-functioning organs after the poison was killed. Who knows, maybe Shiki didn't strain so far as to repair brain damage (or he fixed the brain but not the memories haha).
He manages to accurately cut Arc into seventeen pieces almost instantly, he hits the dot on Nrvnqsr's ultimate form whilst it was charging at him fast enough to tear the ground apart beneath it, he kills... what was it, seventy beasts? All in about the space of a second.
The guy has ridiculous hand-eye coordination.
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This always confused me. There is no way Shiki can deal with 18 swords flying at him, Saber isn't even sure she can parry that much and Shiki certainly doesn't have Saber stats. The only answer I've got to this is it never gets to that point, its not like Shirou can project anything other than K&B in less than a second.
Yet he still loses to Kohaku in video games.
Sad that the canon is on my side, not yours?
No, but he is very, very fast. Fast enough to slaughter several beasts feeding on him in an instant. Fast enough to mostly evade an eye-sight reliant origami technique (which is fucking fast, considering the speed of light being what it is. If you’re wondering what that has to do with sight, go back to physics.)
Yes, but he was prepared. That doesn’t afford him Servant-like god reflexes.He managed to see it and block it that time, so what if it broke his defense these "other" times. It doesn't change the fact that he blocked it once and clearly saw it coming.
Alright then, allow me to explain.
Shiki and Shirou.
If Shiki gets within melee range, he wins.
Any attack type NP that touches him can be killed.
If it’s a beam, he can probably evade, with injury. But as in Bad End 39, that doesn’t stop him from getting within melee range.
Any protective barrier can be killed.
9 Lives Blade Works won’t work if the weapon is killed, obviously.
In short: Shirou’s death is inevitable.
Which is why he can take on 18 swords no problem.He manages to accurately cut Arc into seventeen pieces almost instantly, he hits the dot on Nrvnqsr's ultimate form whilst it was charging at him fast enough to tear the ground apart beneath it, he kills... what was it, seventy beasts? All in about the space of a second.
The guy has ridiculous hand-eye coordination.
Fairly sure that was just Kohaku forcefully repressing her own memories.He clearly didn't do a good job considering Kohaku got brain damage and lost her memories.
This one is easy. Kohaku obviously cheats =P
Its probably something simple, like, if shirou ever tried to set up a giant sword rain shiki would just flash step dodge and kill him.
Edit: akiha's origami was a little slower then usual because she had trouble seeing him that well, also, it comes up later she was going easy on him.
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Before or after he gets chopped to bits?
Shiki is not likely to dodge something like Nine Lives or Gae Bulg.
That too; but also, note Eddyak's comment about killing masses of beasts at once. If he couldn't dodge, he could potentially take on a rain of swords without a scratch.
Just stumbled into the Shiki wanking, was on my way out but this caught my eye.
So...Shiki can react and to and destroy something moving several magnitudes faster than the speed of sound without repercussion.
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O.o
So what? They're just really powerful bits of wood and metal. Gae Bolg might be able to warp causality, but in the end, it's just a spear with a really powerful enchantment on it. NPs aren't indestructible, and on top of that, Shirou's copies of said NPs don't measure up to the originals. Even if it were an NP whose specific ability was to be indestructible, the NP will always die when Shirou runs out of mana, or dismisses it, or starts to see its flaws.
Go back and reread the bit where Arc calls Shiki a monster. She outright says no armour, no enchantments, no magic of any kind will protect someone against the MeoDP.
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Gae Bolg is different as it is a reverse-causality.
Shiki can kill the weapon with which he uses the technique. This effectively means he's using air particles to hit your testicle. Ever had someone grab a bicycle pump and blast you?
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THIS THIS THIS THISGo back and reread the bit where Arc calls Shiki a monster. She outright says no armour, no enchantments, no magic of any kind will protect someone against the MeoDP.
Am I the only one that reads "in an instant" as being very fast and not as being truly instantaneous. Like if I was to say "I got out of bed in an instant" I wouldn't assume other people would think I literally teleported out of bed but just got out of bed fastish.
Without a scratch is a bit farfetched. He probably is considered to have his fueled-by-hatred mode engaged if he is in orgy mode though, so he would likely have time to lethally counter attack.
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