Well then it still goes to Gae Bolg. Tsubame Gaeshi hit a whole total of 0 times from like 4 uses. Gae Bolg hit once out of one use(it just wasn't fatal). If you are going to bring up the stairs not letting him use the full thing, you should see how that proves you even more wrong.Originally Posted by Loyal-to-Lelouch
I would have agreed with you if you said Cu could just use runes on Sasaki or Death Flight, but there isn't anything that implies Cu so vastly outspeeds Kojiro that he could run circles around him or what not. Sasaki's agility isn't of the highest rank because he is slow.
Medea's field doesn't grant Sasaki any particular buffs either.
Every time we see him use it it was always against Saber who has heavy plot armor, and even then the 2 strike one was only dodge thanks in part largely to Instinct.
Agility/=/ speed. He's helpless against ranged attacks. Cu has a huge throwing spear that never misses cause he's just that good at throwing it and a bunch of runes. He can also leave melee with ease thanks to disengage. Its a stomp.
Doesn't Kojiro have super high luck?
Kojiro outside of the temple is a moot point. That's like saying "If you took GoB away from Gilgamesh he'd get stomped."
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
You mean the complete immunity to everything apart from high ranking NPs? Cause thats a huge buff.
Gae Bolg can be evaded. TG has no loopholes.
There is one, however its an indirect one.
It makes people attack him from one direction from downhill.
In otherwords Sasaki will always have an advantageous position in a fight.
That in itself is part of Sasaki's overwhelming capability, but even then he is still an incredibly strong servant so while it plays a part Sasaki is no less amazing because of it.
But it would have affected Sasaki too IIRC (luckily he doesn't have any NPs).
And that's a nerf on his opponent.
TG has a loophole when you stand on stairs or when the blade is damaged.
He also never uses his Runes or thrown Gae Bolg unless it's a special circumstance such as Archer's taunting or Berserker's God Hand, and Sasaki's attacks were fast enough to put Saber on guard someone who can fight Lancer.
And having Lancer run away every time in the fight does not seem like something he'd do if you ask me.
Gae Bolg can be avoided by just keeping out of range.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
Kojiro has A Rank Luck, that´s basically immunity to atleast the normal version of Gay Bulge.
Soap? Gae Bolg still has a better record than TG.
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Evidence? Saber had B rank luck and A rank instinct and barely survived.
Gae Bolg has the loop hole of if lancer can't talk he can't use it.
Since you know he has to invoke the name to cause the NP to activate.
B is not A.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
That didn't help Bazett.
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So? We know that damaging a servant like that is equivalent to suicide.
Gonna go by the fact that Lancer doesn´t even consider using it on Gil (from what we see), who also has A-rank Luck. Also wasn´t the whole point of Gay Bulge that you can avoid it entirely with high-ranked luck? Then since when was A not high-rank.
Well considering he himself said that he'd prefer to deal with Sasaki with ranged attacks... Oh and no Sasaki's attacks weren't fast they were difficult to perceive a huge difference.
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Dude...speculating off a fight where Cu was held back and against the strongest heroic spirit and we don't know what happened apart from it lasted 12 hours is retarded. And no we have no idea if high luck is guaranteed avoidance or just improves your chances, the latter seems more likely considering how instinct helped Saber.
Yeah they were fast along with the being hard to hit, that's what makes him so dangerous.
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