He is able to match the speed of saber's strikes even when he swung his sword so it took the longest possible path for the swing.Originally Posted by BlackField
How is that not fast.
He is able to match the speed of saber's strikes even when he swung his sword so it took the longest possible path for the swing.
How is that not fast.
Nah, Saber was nerfed from fighting uphill and she couldn't perceive his attacks. That isn't speed, thats technique and terrain advantage.
How the shit does instict helo against reversing causality?
Source or it didn't happen. Not to mention swinging downwards increases velocity, swinging upwards decreases velocity. Its terrain advantage.
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Ask Nasu but we know instinct helped.
Actually moving to dodge helps if your luck is high enough.
Like Gae Bolg, it is impossible to avoid, albeit through different mechanics. It is possible to develop countermeasures against Gáe Bolg after learning that it targets the heart, but the only true countermeasure against Tsubame Gaeshi is to not allow him to use the skill at all.
Dammit....I hate this....Cu's my 2nd fav F/SN Servant....
Last edited by LoyaltL; June 14th, 2013 at 01:03 AM.
Well thats true if you let him use the full thing with an undamaged blade but the thing is that never occurs. He's always on the staircase and it stops him from using the full thing, the partial one is much more likely to be used and that has been avoided multiple times.
Gae Bolg has been used twice and it hit both times(once when the opponent was standing really far away from him), it just wasn't fatal in one of the examples.
Last edited by BlackField; June 14th, 2013 at 01:03 AM.
Again the situations for those are completely different, Sasaki never had a chance to just outright use it he was always under heavy pressure from either time or Saber not giving him proper footing, however Saber did just basically sit there and allow Cu to use Gae Bolg.
So? You miss the point. It doesn't matter if TG is a guaranteed kill if he can't ever use it to kill people, he can't even injure people with it. Its success rate is 0%.
Gae Bolg has been used twice and both times it was an effectively fatal wound(the scene itself states that Lancer could've finished off Saber with ease).
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Last edited by Knick; June 14th, 2013 at 01:09 AM.
Well in that case you have to switch their situations around and have Sasaki get the open ground while Cu has the time limits along with Saber never allowing him to get into position in the first place.
Well, you see right there it says it shouldn't make it in time. Its awesome technique that makes it look like its taking a weird route.
Lolol, I'm bullshitting, you got me.
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Wut.
Think he talking about how TG cannot be effectively used on stairs, as the off footing prevents him from releasing all three strikes.
If he were on level ground and without a damaged sword it would kill anyone but Gil (because bullshit armor) and Herk (cause bullshit body).
What I'm trying to say is that yes you can compare them however the way you're trying to compare them is off, as the situation they are used in are very different from one another.
If it was on flat ground they fight for a bit, Cu gets annoyed that he isn't getting anywhere jumps back and chucks Gae Bolg/uses his runes. Thats what he said he would do against Sasaki if he had the choice. Sasaki isn't going to be able to get into position to use TG because of Cu's speed.
Milibunk, I don't think you get my point. The job of these techniques are to kill their opponents TG can only be used under difficult circumstances(because of the terrain he is stuck on) that he never actually reaches. Gae Bolg can be used anywhere at any time, thats why its so good.
Last edited by BlackField; June 14th, 2013 at 01:22 AM.
Cu Agility -> A
Sasaki Agility -> A+
Cu can't use Gae Bolg either.
Last edited by LoyaltL; June 14th, 2013 at 01:23 AM.
Agility isn't speed. How many times does this have to be repeated?
Cu Chulainn is canonically the fastest servant, reread the fight with Emiya.
And he can certainly use the thrown version when he's standing 100m away from Sasaki after jumping 100m back. Reread the disengage skill, he can get out of any melee combat no matter how savage.
Last edited by BlackField; June 14th, 2013 at 01:26 AM.
Then what is it again? Reaction time? Attack Speed?
I thought Rider was the fastest.
And Lancer is fast in bursts.
He never sleeps. He never dies.
Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.
General Dexterity.
Can be from movement speed, attack speed, ability to move more fluidly, etc.
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