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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    Well when you take into account that in Nasuland even your survival instincts come from Alaya's counterforce, technically every decision made by a character that involved "yeah, I don't feel like dying today" was the counterforce.
    Other way around, imo. Everybody thinking "I don't wanna die" is what causes the collective unconscious of humanity to go "I don't wanna die".
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    Question: What is "The Original Human" (aside from the name implies) and what is it's worth? From one of the rough chapters, it mentions that Avicebron's NP has something to with recreating it, and IIRC Touko has some interest in it.

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    It's Adam. They're all planning on recreating the First Impact.
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    But they're bad at it so all they get is the inferior Second Impact.
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    Nasuverse!Adam? I have no idea.


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    Honestly, I don't see what's hard to understand about the term "original human". Pretty self-explanatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Honestly, I don't see what's hard to understand about the term "original human". Pretty self-explanatory.
    It was mainly why it's so important that i am interested in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    "original human"
    Is that you, Gilgamesh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    It was mainly why it's so important that i am interested in it.
    Compare Age of Gods people with modern people.

    That's why the "original human" would be important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Compare Age of Gods people with modern people.

    That's why the "original human" would be important.
    So the original human can create tsunamis with the wave of a finger, shoot laser beams and shits faeries?

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    It's just another experiment to reach the Root. That's all. Araya traced back souls through origins, Touko tried to find the original body, but neither of them really cared about the original whatever itself, it was all just a means to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    So the original human can create tsunamis with the wave of a finger, shoot laser beams and shits faeries?


    Actually I don't know about that last one. I mean, if you think about it, the only one who could do that is tohno shiki. I mean, has probably eaten one a few times.
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    Question about Reality Marbles:

    Do you actually have to be "distorted" as I see in a lot of fics to use them, or is that fanon? Because I can't find much supporting it other than that line about "the alien common sense of demons" which I'm not sure how to interpret. I mean, Satsuki has one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormwhite View Post
    Question about Reality Marbles:

    Do you actually have to be "distorted" as I see in a lot of fics to use them, or is that fanon? Because I can't find much supporting it other than that line about "the alien common sense of demons" which I'm not sure how to interpret. I mean, Satsuki has one!
    No, a magus being 'really crazy' or not isn't relevant to them having a Reality Marble. Reality Marbles (except Ionian Hetaroi*) are created by magi through time and effort. In Shirou's case the special circumstances surrounding Archer let him bypass the process and use UBW.

    *: Which is a special case since it only exists as a Noble Phantasm.
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    It's not even fanon, it's total fanfic bullshit.

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    You need to be a psychopath.
    Everyone's a psychopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormwhite View Post
    Question about Reality Marbles:

    Do you actually have to be "distorted" as I see in a lot of fics to use them, or is that fanon? Because I can't find much supporting it other than that line about "the alien common sense of demons" which I'm not sure how to interpret. I mean, Satsuki has one!
    All you need to know is your life's meaning or however it was described in UBW (projecting his soul on the world? I honestly can't remember).

    Anyone with the suitable knowledge of himself can do it.

    Demons are weird imaginary creatures that can naturally utilize reality marbles.
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    Thanks, so reading through CM3 it states that in exchange for having both Element and Origin be "Sword" and not being able to use magecraft of the standard five elements Shirou can manifest Unlimited Blade Works.

    Does this mean anyone else with the same Origin/Element combo would have Unlimited Blade Works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormwhite View Post
    Huh, reading through CM3 it states that in exchange for having both Element and Origin be "Sword" and not being able to use magecraft of the standard five elements Shirou can manifest Unlimited Blade Works.

    Does this mean anyone else with the same Origin/Element combo would have Unlimited Blade Works?
    Nah, I doubt it. They're still different people. Think about how Shirou and Archer's UBW are starkly different from each other just from their difference in worldview despite being the exact same person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    In Shirou's case the special circumstances surrounding Archer let him bypass the process and use UBW.
    Eh, not even that really. It is because Shirou's circuits are tailored for the specific purpose of materializing UBW. It was something Shirou simply had and never had to 'make' one like other magi.

    He just he did not have the skills or experience to actually materialize it, which where then given to him by Archer due to that memory bleed over thing.
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