I don't think we ever came to a conclusion that the container stats are prerequisites or anything. Just be famous awesome swordsman and you should get in.Originally Posted by Daiki
I don't think we ever came to a conclusion that the container stats are prerequisites or anything. Just be famous awesome swordsman and you should get in.
What would be the point to have them even mentioned if they were irrelevant?
No, I went with initial suggestion that stats could be halfway between Joan's and Darnic's Vlad. The fact they are matching up somehow with stats of container are sheer coincidence as I learned what stats containers have after coming up with the stats XD
Sounds like a Rider to me.
But this is more C-a-S material.
I'd recommend discussing it in that thread.
Cause they aren't? Its heroic spirit+servant container+prana supply+master compatibility=stats we see.
Okay, I'll switch there.
PS. That Heroic Spirit would likely classify as Rider and/or Lancer as well. He wasn't known for being exceptional swordsman, but exceptional knight, and it was demanded of typical knight here to good both with sword and lance (whether using lance as part of cavalry or using lance horseless when hunting bears)
Well, except in the case of the Saber where Nasu is super religious about telling us every time he talks about it that you need to have really "high" stats to qualify (of course what actually constitutes high stats is a bit of a mystery given the range we've seen).
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I'm talking to a wall. I don't give a damn about the Servant stats.
WHAT'S THE FUCKIN POINT TO HAVE NON-FORMATED STATS EVER MENTIONED IF THEY HAVE NO RELEVANCE TO ANYTHING WHATSOEVER???
Servant Container might as well not exist at all since, fuck, guess what, I'll set up stats based on, obscure and adaptable to my convenience, factors.
I think what BF means is that you get A for STR from the container, but you might get C from the Prana supply and B for who the servant actually is and then you round those three up and get an avg. of B and so he has B in strength. How accurate that is, I really don't know.
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That's not what I'm talking about. I meant that they had to be some kind of base indication for the class. I know that these aren't set in stones and that others factors will alter them. W/e.
Ok, thought you might've gotten all worked up for the wrong reason.
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I remember talking about this before but I don't think we got very far on it so lemme try again.
Does SHIKI Tohno have the MEoLP that Roa used in his routes or was that something unique to Roa's side?
Well my problem is when you said it's lacking one rank somewhere. To my current knowledge, it really isn't. We have no idea if a Saber class servant has to equal at minimum 180 or something. It just happens to be the case so far.
All I think we know is servant container+hero+prana supply+master-servant compatibility=servant we see. Minimums and prerequisites are just speculation.
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Just a question, why the masters in the HGW quite rarely considers having a servant from india/china? 2 of the servants so far already broken as hell and it's quite puzzling for me that most of the master in HGW never actually summoned them
Japanese people are very racist.
You have Lu Bu and Li Shuwen in Extra.
most HGW masters are either very traditionalistic european magi that know jack shit about the OPness of indian heroes, or japanese magi with a boner for europe because thats where the great european magi are.
Or japanese people without a clue who get a random servant by chance.
yup i said most, that's the 2 i was referring. scratch that make them 3 i forgot to include karna
He said he had acquired that power because of his many incarnations - that makes it sound like a Near Side exclusive.
don't quote me on this
I don't think Karna is any more broken than Herk or King Arthur or Iskander, to be honest. Cu Chulainn, Lancelot and Medusa should've been all kinds of crazy tier as well, they just didn't have the best masters. The guy who summoned Medea could've been trying to summon someone else. Diarmuid should've been a really interesting servant to summon and he's a backup after all.
Li Shuwen was really unexpected, I don't think anyone would've expected him to be that good.
Also Leopardbear is sort of correct, except it's more like Nasu thinks wealthy Europeans are racist and the Japanese masters are all westaboos, so they all summoned big European names instead of picking the best guy for the job.
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