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    "by that point" is clearly not enough time to go in jis vault of fuvkungeverything and search some anti-magic weapon.
    He engaged him in a swordfight because he wanted to prove a point. He probably couldve won had he taken his axe instead.

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    He doesn't have to look for a particular NP if he knows what he wants to use. (See Merodach)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    He should know at least about stuff that can dissipate magic.
    Why? It's not like he has a problem with magic. He has every magic-resist amulet/talisman/whatever there ever was, a shield that bounces spells, and he can just swordrain the shit out of anything that tries casting anyway.
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    He does need to know exactly which one it is he wants to use, see Vasavi Shakti.

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    what are we talking about now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Wouldn't you think that if the spear was that convenient, Gilgamesh would have used it against Shirou?
    What else would the spear do to the projection then?
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    Not do anything because there's no flow of magic energy constantly keeping it in place. It seems more like their life span is determined at the time of projection and afterwards Shirou doesn't have to worry about them.

    We are talking about the Yellow Rose of Exorcism, yes?
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    Ah, I see. Why would using Rho Aius hurt Archer so much then. He has to funnel power into it the entire time it's blocking Gae Bolg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    what are we talking about now?
    Gil not finding stuff in his mythical vault of wherethefuckdidiputmygoldentoothbrush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    Ah, I see. Why would using Rho Aius hurt Archer so much then. He has to funnel power into it the entire time it's blocking Gae Bolg.
    Maybe that's a separate function from projection or maybe it's a result of him being so piss at anything other than swords. We never really hear of Shirou pouring power into his weapons after the fact to keep them functioning. It always seems like he just starts from scratch if something it wrong. Actually, the simplest explanation may be that Archer was reinforcing it, since reinforcing projections is a thing now.
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    Araya, what is your favorite color?
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    "why didn't gil just use X" is a field of study broad enough to support a country
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    No, the thing is, she was perfectly capable of destroying the swords in one hit is the thing (we see her do it). Yet she toyed with Shirou for apparently a good while before pretty much saying to go fuck himself because he wasn't fighting seriously. And even then she didn't start destroying the weapons until it became clear on what Shirou was doing (setting attacks so that she would be twirling in circles until he could get a hit in) when the swords started flying at her from behind.
    It's putting in her all and actually destroying the swords that leaves her open for attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    Maybe that's a separate function from projection or maybe it's a result of him being so piss at anything other than swords. We never really hear of Shirou pouring power into his weapons after the fact to keep them functioning. It always seems like he just starts from scratch if something it wrong. Actually, the simplest explanation may be that Archer was reinforcing it, since reinforcing projections is a thing now.
    There's also the old question about how Saber's armor works. If it works the same as the projections (just invest some mana and forget about it) then we already know how they would react to the spear.
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    Except Saber's armor clearly doesn't work the same way as gradient air that's incredibly silly, mAc Chaos. Really what is and what isn't affected by Gae Dearg is defined as clearly as the difference between vermillion and crimson if you are also colorblind. Why do some things have flow and others do not and how did they decide?
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    Only within myself.
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    Araya, what is your favorite color?
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    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
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    Shirou's swords aren't Gradation Air. The whole point is he physically builds them as real objects inside his world and then pulls them out rather then making a fake hollow image out of prana. That's how he tricks the world into thinking it's the real deal.

    Diarmuid's spear wouldn't do shit to them because they're not even magecraft at all. They're something that comes from magecraft, but so are all the servant's bodies themselves.

    EDIT: On Prisma Illya's state in terms of canon, didn't the mangaka himself say it's basically just fanfiction (well, doujinshi I guess)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riesbyfe View Post
    Hmm, so will it actually pierce Rho Aius?
    Aius is a bounded field. It's different.

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    Well I was corresponding to mentioned fact about pouring mana, it should at least cut the mana supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meevanhelot View Post
    Shirou's swords aren't Gradation Air. The whole point is he physically builds them as real objects inside his world and then pulls them out rather then making a fake hollow image out of prana. That's how he tricks the world into thinking it's the real deal.
    Uhhhh, no... UBW just supplies the blueprints. If he actually pulled them out of UBW, they'd be destroyed permanently whenever they were damaged.
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    I liked it better when meevanhelot had that obnoxious Archer avatar so I could get mad and disregard his posts without having to read them.

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    The whole point of him having a world full of materials is to pull off the loophole. It's explicitly not Gradation Air, it's putting shape to his imagination using the world inside him.

    ^It backfired on me because I actually really don't like Archer and so got sick of looking at his face.
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