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    Poor McJon.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Blackstone's seeming inability to grasp that "separating the heavens and the earth" and "carving up Tiamat to make the heavens and the earth" are just subtle variations of the same basic creation story is really making me mad. Please tell me he's doing it on purpose just to be difficult. Please.
    His inability to understand is beyond his power to help alleviate so instead he's being difficult on purpose.





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    What T-M works are featured on this banner? (without spoiling)

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    Fate series.

    SN, Zero, Apocrypha, Extra.
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    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


    Linger: Complete. August, 1995. I met him. A branch off Part 3. Mikiya keeps his promise to meet Azaka, and meets again with that mysterious girl he once found in the rain.
    Shinkai: Set in the Edo period. DHO-centric. As mysterious figures gather in the city, a young woman unearths the dark secrets of the Asakami family.
    The Dollkeeper: A Fate side-story. The memoirs of the last tuner of the Einzberns. A record of the end of a family.
    Overcount 2030: Extra x Notes. A girl with no memories is found by a nameless soldier, and wakes up to a world of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgeburner90 View Post
    More precisely:
    Extra, Apocrypha, Zero, Apocrypha, Stay/Night.
    Not Extra, Apocrypha, stay night, Apocrypha, stay night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Not Extra, Apocrypha, stay night, Apocrypha, stay night?
    Doesn't he show up in both wars?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Blackstone's seeming inability to grasp that "separating the heavens and the earth" and "carving up Tiamat to make the heavens and the earth" are just subtle variations of the same basic creation story is really making me mad. Please tell me he's doing it on purpose just to be difficult. Please.
    Maybe he isn't aware that they are literally from two different mythologies?

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    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Maybe he isn't aware that they are literally from two different mythologies?
    Eh, in either case, something was rent asunder. Close enough, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Blackstone's seeming inability to grasp that "separating the heavens and the earth" and "carving up Tiamat to make the heavens and the earth" are just subtle variations of the same basic creation story is really making me mad. Please tell me he's doing it on purpose just to be difficult. Please.
    I am sorry that you're wrong, picking and choosing what happened according to what you want to have happened, and are beating a dead horse because you're being an obstinate brick wall. The whole point to start was because of how stupid the claims of Gilgamesh's Ea creating the world was (as in the TM one), and how it was mixing and matching different mythologies.

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    I'm sorry.
    Hey, Leo. Are you still butthurt over those spacebattlers? Curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Maybe he isn't aware that they are literally from two different mythologies?
    I'm aware which is why I am curious as to why you guys feel the need to cut and paste them together into some macabre abomination.

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    It's called syncretism, and when you have an "all myths are true" kind of setting it's a given.

    I mean it's not like that's the worst example. Why Ea and not Enki? Why Gate of Babylon and not Uruk? Why El Kid instead of Enkidu? Why do the Arthurian heroes draw from an unholy mishmash of sources?

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    Dunno? I mean, he always looked like the first Hassan dead in Zero to me, but ok.
    If you look close at the picture, you can see the claws in Shaytan's hand arranged in some sort of facepalm.
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    don't quote me on this

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    I don't even give a shit about the Nasuverse right now, I'm just saying if I see you drop that stupid fucking line about how separating isn't creating one more time I'll punch your fookin teeth in (I swear on me mum).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    It's called syncretism, and when you have an "all myths are true" kind of setting it's a given.
    Doesn't stop it from being a caricature. I see what you're trying to say though. It's all true so the Ea that Gilgamesh has must have separated the earth and sky whatever that means. We already knew it could warp and destroy space, as well as open a fissure to when earth was primordial it's really just easier to go by what we see rather than something that happened off-screen.

    I mean it's not like that's the worst example. Why Ea and not Enki? Why Gate of Babylon and not Uruk? Why El Kid instead of Enkidu? Why do the Arthurian heroes draw from an unholy mishmash of sources?
    It's because Nasu needed to appeal to a certain distasteful demographic in order to make money. That's one obvious. Same reason why Jack the Ripper was made into a loli by Higashide.

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    Separating isn't creating. When you separate something, you take one object and split it into two. When you create something, you start with nothing and make something out of it.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedoctor View Post
    Separating isn't creating. When you separate something, you take one object and split it into two. When you create something, you start with nothing and make something out of it.
    So when I split a ball in two, I have not created two halves?

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    who the fuck cares

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    Linger: Complete. August, 1995. I met him. A branch off Part 3. Mikiya keeps his promise to meet Azaka, and meets again with that mysterious girl he once found in the rain.
    Shinkai: Set in the Edo period. DHO-centric. As mysterious figures gather in the city, a young woman unearths the dark secrets of the Asakami family.
    The Dollkeeper: A Fate side-story. The memoirs of the last tuner of the Einzberns. A record of the end of a family.
    Overcount 2030: Extra x Notes. A girl with no memories is found by a nameless soldier, and wakes up to a world of war.

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    You know if we really want to nitpick, why is it Ea rather than Enki? Seems kind of odd as Nasu seems to know about that with the Prototype Gil. Maybe it is just some weird Nasuverse mythological thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    I don't even give a shit about the Nasuverse right now, I'm just saying if I see you drop that stupid fucking line about how separating isn't creating one more time I'll punch your fookin teeth in (I swear on me mum).
    That's how this all started though.

    Also, separating isn't creating unless you interpret it as such bring it on. There I said it again. I got the oil let's lube up and wrestle to the death this is only way we can settle this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedoctor View Post
    Separating isn't creating. When you separate something, you take one object and split it into two. When you create something, you start with nothing and make something out of it.
    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
    6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
    8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
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    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Korburss View Post
    You know if we really want to nitpick, why is it Ea rather than Enki? Seems kind of odd as Nasu seems to know about that with the Prototype Gil. Maybe it is just some weird Nasuverse mythological thing.
    Presumably because Ea is the name used in the source from which he derived the Sword of Rupture.

    IIRC arai once noted that he found a Japanese "mythological objects" book which described the "sword" from the Song of Ullikummi as "Ea's Sword".

    It wouldn't be a stretch to assume Nasu used something like that as his source.

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