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    It's a Moon Cell Servants = Throne Servants.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    That's a "No name in Extra is different from Throne EMIYA" isn't right, so basing any idea off of Extra's spirits being different would be wrong.

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    As far as I understand it, unless you want to postulate that the Moon Cell can interact cross-dimensionally somehow, there is no real precedent for it to have multiple records of a single Heroic Spirit.

    I haven't played Extra though, so I don't actually know much about the Moon Cell with regards to how interdimensionally capable it may or may not be.

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    Idk, EXTRA Vlad and Apo Vlad are different.

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    Different reputations =/= Different records

    In Romania = Patriotic hero
    Outside Romania = Bloodsucking shitlord that got turned on by putting people on stakes

    Nasu just went with the cool choice of making the former the actual guy.
    Last edited by Christemo; August 4th, 2015 at 08:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Different reputations =/= Different records

    In Romania = Patriotic hero
    Outside Romania = Bloodsucking shitlord that got turned on by putting people on stakes

    Nasu just went with the cool choice of making the former the actual guy.
    Except he was made a Lancer.

    You know what that mean

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    Yes, he put people on stakes, he didnt take fetishistic pleasure in it or bathe in blood like people outside Romania thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwilightsCall View Post
    As far as I understand it, unless you want to postulate that the Moon Cell can interact cross-dimensionally somehow, there is no real precedent for it to have multiple records of a single Heroic Spirit.

    I haven't played Extra though, so I don't actually know much about the Moon Cell with regards to how interdimensionally capable it may or may not be.
    The moon cell records all of history and calvulates all possibilities
    So even without actually seeing another dimension or timeline, it still knows what happened in any potential different past and future

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwilightsCall View Post
    As far as I understand it, unless you want to postulate that the Moon Cell can interact cross-dimensionally somehow, there is no real precedent for it to have multiple records of a single Heroic Spirit.

    I haven't played Extra though, so I don't actually know much about the Moon Cell with regards to how interdimensionally capable it may or may not be.

    wasnt it explained somewhere that the Moon Cell can and does calculate ALL alternate futures?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Yes, he put people on stakes, he didnt take fetishistic pleasure in it or bathe in blood like people outside Romania thought.
    Wasnt the bloodbathing just Bathory? I never heard itbeeing associated with Vlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Yes, he put people on stakes, he didnt take fetishistic pleasure in it or bathe in blood like people outside Romania thought.
    Wasnt the bloodbathing just Bathory? I never heard itbeeing associated with Vlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Break View Post
    Wasnt the bloodbathing just Bathory? I never heard itbeeing associated with Vlad.
    People say so much about Vlad that its legitimately hard to tell what is and isnt real, so I genuinely don't recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Yes, he put people on stakes, he didnt take fetishistic pleasure in it or bathe in blood like people outside Romania thought.
    But he becomes a vampire through reputation,which mean GG in this verse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachibi View Post
    But he becomes a vampire through reputation,which mean GG in this verse
    ?????

    Literally what are you trying to say

    Vlad was not a vampire, and he did not become one through reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    ?????

    Literally what are you trying to say

    Vlad was not a vampire, and he did not become one through reputation.
    Talking about Legend of Dracula

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachibi View Post
    Talking about Legend of Dracula
    His reputation is that of a vampire. That manifests as a Noble Phantasm due to how strong that belief is.

    That doesnt mean Vlad himself is one "by reputation", merely that his reputation is that of a vampire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachibi View Post
    But he becomes a vampire through reputation,which mean GG in this verse
    Extra Vlad just has some vampiric traits from innocent monster, he didnt actually become a vampire

    And Apo Vlad only becomes one through the Dracula NP, not through reputation (which wouuld be innocent monster)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachibi View Post
    But he becomes a vampire through reputation,which mean GG in this verse
    He has the skill innocent monster wihich allows him to transform into Dracula. He has it due to corruption of legend. He would never willingly use it though.

    Uhm yeah mixing them here Extra has the skill and Apo the NP.





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    Thats not how Innocent monster works
    Its a passive skill, you cant activate or deactivate it, and it just warps your body, it wont actually give you any vampiric powers. Bathory is an exception because additionally to innocent monster dragofieng her, she also has actual Dragon Blood as well.

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    So, in Fate Proto there's a split off from the church called the Templars. Are they basically Executors who dress up in fancy armour and use swords instead of black keys?

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