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    Gaia's CF is only meant to react to threats from nature and alien threats. It's not that they are bad at their job, they simply aren't getting any because there is no threat of that nature as of late, compared to that, human threats are common.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    Probably no and no.

    To #1 not 100% sure because its time travel shenanigans. At the start of FGO Solomon has already succeeded because we're no longer able to look very far into the future, and what we can see is that human civilization is dead. But now we're chasing after him and undoing his work, with heroes summoned from the Throne.

    Alaya is not the Throne. The Throne is a "place" outside time and space, like the Root (but is not the Root).

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    Furthermore if killing Alaya (which is mainly an English fan preferred term like Gaia. Not actually used very often at all. Its just Humanity, like collective human consciousness concept) meant killing the Throne then FGO summoning definitely wouldn't be possible.
    ok, but you need humanity to put new people on the throne, since humans need to worship them as heroes, right? so at the very least, doesn't the end of alaya mean the end of new entrants? not sure if CGs can bypass that though since i thought they contracted with Alaya, but you said Alaya is Gaia and the distinction comes from translation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    The Throne is outside time and space. "New people" on the throne don't exist, they've always been there.
    fair enough.

    Still feels a bit weird to think that Tesla was recognized by humans and therefore was on the throne in 5000 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embrace tophats View Post
    fair enough.

    Still feels a bit weird to think that Tesla was recognized by humans and therefore was on the throne in 5000 BC
    still feels a bit weird a former ginger was on the throne at 5000BC.

    Basically there is no "throne during 5000BC." It's just "on the throne."
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    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    You get dropped into fate/stay night just after the archer vs saber fight, how do you steer towards a happy ending for everyone? like how do you convince saber to let go?
    With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.

    Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereus View Post
    You get dropped into fate/stay night just after the archer vs saber fight, how do you steer towards a happy ending for everyone? like how do you convince saber to let go?
    sing disney song
    emotes abound
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Pretty sure this thread isn't for those kind of questions but I wouldn't even bother trying. There's always someone in Fate that doesn't get "saved" in the end.
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    Just watch KNK, read fate and tsuki then just never bother with another nasu thing again but continue to use BL regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Embrace tophats View Post
    ok, but you need humanity to put new people on the throne, since humans need to worship them as heroes, right? so at the very least, doesn't the end of alaya mean the end of new entrants? not sure if CGs can bypass that though since i thought they contracted with Alaya, but you said Alaya is Gaia and the distinction comes from translation
    What the fuck

    I don't even

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    odd instead...
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Tophats how did you come to the opposite conclusion of what I spent multiple paragraphs explaining in detail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereus View Post
    You get dropped into fate/stay night just after the archer vs saber fight, how do you steer towards a happy ending for everyone?
    Find a car and drive away.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereus View Post
    how do you steer towards a happy ending for everyone?
    You let Kirei win, everyone dies and therefore no longer sad

    Heroic spirits can eff themselves, they're already in valhalla
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    Kirei is a peacemaker

    Nobody is fighting when he's done

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    Kirei is a peacemaker

    Nobody is fighting when he's done
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    With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.

    Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereus View Post
    You get dropped into fate/stay night just after the archer vs saber fight, how do you steer towards a happy ending for everyone? like how do you convince saber to let go?
    i change the terms and instead get summoned weeks before the war. i summon assassin and help rin/shirou on the night berserker nearly kills shirou/saber. then i join them and work with them until i betray them because fuck them and eventually win the war with my assassin. the world gets destroyed by AM because fuck you world

    then i leave japan before counter guardians or whatever comes down to stop what's happening, find a cute magus to marry, and marry her and the end.

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    Lots of clarification regarding the differences between Alaya and the Counter Force
    I see, I see. Thanks, everyone!

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    I have a few questions and thought you guys would be the best informed to answer them.

    1. Is No Name Archer from Fate/EXTRA the same spirit as CG EMIYA from Fate/Stay Night?

    2. Related to the above. Is it possible for multiple variations of the same Heroic Spirit to sit on the Throne of Heroes, as in they come from different realities and count as discrete Heroes?

    3a. Is Saber Lily just a younger version of Fate/Stay Night Saber? Or a young Arturia from a different reality?
    3b. If the answer to the above is that Saber Lily is a young Stay Night Saber, how did she end up concealing the fact she was female if she had spread tales of herself as a beautiful feminine Knight-Princess?

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    1. No.

    2. Yes. Fate/Hollow Ataraxia even points out that there were two Sabers summoned in the third Holy Grail War that were different aspects of the same spirit.

    3. She's post-drawing Caliburn, pre-founding Camelot. And Merlin both made her a pseudo-man as king, and also, they didn't actually care a ton about her actual gender.

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    A heroic spirit is just a tradition. Different aspects of that tradition are summoned.
    That's why Lancer Cu and Caster Cu are different. You're summoning different aspects of him.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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