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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Whatever any given magical foundation is going to have
    i hope one day we get sparkles and rainbows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    About Gil's bff, gil himself can use Enkidu, the chain. And of course we know Enkidu himself can transform in a chain. But are those two the same entity, or are they somehow different?
    babylon spoilers for safety
    Kingu also showed becoming a chain, and was broken (and I believe it was heavily implied that he died after breaking.
    Yet we see Herk breaking Gil's chain, and yet he uses it later on shirou without much of a problem. If enki is the same as the chain, shouldn't breaking him have a more lasting effect, and does it also mean that gil pretty much has a HS in his vault? Could he summon the enkidu in human form as well?
    maybe?
    more information needed
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Is Solomon the ancestor of all magi of which 72 were selected by Goetia or is he the ancestor 72 lines of magi which were then used by Goetia?

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    well its solomon's bod either way
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Whatever any given magical foundation is going to have
    So Does that mean the 1st foundation they choose is the element they get stuck with I wonder or will they have a different element in a different foundation.
    With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.

    Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.

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    Sorry, maybe I didn't ask my question correctly. I've seen people say that all magi come from Solomon and others say that Solomon is the ancestor of 72 magi line of families. Which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereus View Post
    So Does that mean the 1st foundation they choose is the element they get stuck with I wonder or will they have a different element in a different foundation.
    the latter
    if you're a western magus and you're wind, in an eastern system you're not going to be wind because wind doesn't exist in that line of thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolly Battory View Post
    Sorry, maybe I didn't ask my question correctly. I've seen people say that all magi come from Solomon and others say that Solomon is the ancestor of 72 magi line of families. Which is it?
    the second
    all magi did not come from solomon, there were magi before him.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ereus View Post
    So Does that mean the 1st foundation they choose is the element they get stuck with I wonder or will they have a different element in a different foundation.
    "Right. One usually takes one of the elements that make up this world. They call fire normal and wind noble in the Magic Association, right?
    It can be one of 'earth, water, fire, wind, heaven' or one of 'wood, fire, earth, metal, water'.
    A magus has one of these elements, and there are others with specialized elements as well.
    …Most of these magi end up as specialists, though."


    tl;dr: different systems have different elements, and then there are wacky elements like "sword" so good luck finding out how many there are

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    GO and Apocrypha Spoilers
    So with Grand Order and Apocrypha, theres now two big bads whose grand designs involve making everyone immortal.

    So i think i understand how physically Goetia plans work, but even today i don't really get Amakusa plan.

    Please correct me if i'm wrong:

    He will connect to the Greater Grail alongside Shakespeare, and use Shakespeare's NP & Heaven's Feel to do a planet-wide Third Magic ritual making everyone immortal and brainwashing everyone to be nice forever?

    Is that right? How does this new world physically works? Everyone are ghosts spooking each other?

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    everyone is Arc but don't lose their power when some japanese kid stabs the ground
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Do i still need to spoiler Apocrypha stuff?
    Does Shirou plan involve only the immortality or is brainwashing actually the main focus of said plan?

    Fate Grand/Order ID: 102947414/GreenBob
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    Spoiler:
    he believes the root of evil is death. So if everyone couldn't die there would be no evil. and everyone would be happy.
    There is no brainwashing.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Actually considering how alignment is kinda sorta innate how does it interact with one's choice of magical foundation which should by all rights be a thing that is decided later in life.

    Or is your alignment just how whatever magical foundation you're using interprets some nebulous personal nature that is the actual innate thing so like maybe if you're Wind in MA foundation that translates to Manipulation in HxH foundation because that just happens to be how your you-ness translates into magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Actually considering how alignment is kinda sorta innate how does it interact with one's choice of magical foundation which should by all rights be a thing that is decided later in life.

    Or is your alignment just how whatever magical foundation you're using interprets some nebulous personal nature that is the actual innate thing so like maybe if you're Wind in MA foundation that translates to Manipulation in HxH foundation because that just happens to be how your you-ness translates into magic.
    well most magi also have a pedigree to consider too.
    Like how it says Sakura is born to use the Tohsaka magecraft because she's a Tohsaka. So you have compatibility that way as well.
    there are a lot of factors.

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    or how to use the matou magecraft you have a water alignment.
    So presumably they were all born with water.

    but yeah in that way its the latter
    Last edited by You; December 27th, 2016 at 11:22 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Cmiiw but iirc, in tsukihime workd fairyland and what not is not in the other layer of the world but on the surface layer right?
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    Can a Heroic Spirit from a pruned world-line be summoned as a Servant?

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    What the hell is a pruned world-line
    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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    You know how when something's blocked up inside and you eat a lot of prunes to get rid of it? The universe does the same thing, but to failed timelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    What the hell is a pruned world-line
    Spoiler:
    The Nero end from Fate/Extella
    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    You're free, Raff. You're free...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Consensus View Post
    Can a Heroic Spirit from a pruned world-line be summoned as a Servant?
    Mechanics aside this is the kinda situation that'd be kinda hard to happen. I mean, heroes rise to perpetuate mankind, so if somebody qualifies for HS they've probably done something that would get locked anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    You know how when something's blocked up inside and you eat a lot of prunes to get rid of it? The universe does the same thing, but to failed timelines.
    I..don't get it
    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    The moment the opportunity arises for a pun, the one known as 'Taiga's Knight' will be there to deliver whether you like it or not.

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