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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruor View Post
    Also, I would think Void and Nothingness would be the same thing. Finally, I'm gonna laugh when he introduces Imaginary Elements 1-4 (which is the element that the Ghosty DAA is made out of, of course!) to make stuff even more confusing.
    I think the distinction might be similar to the difference between "what's inside of a hole", and "what's outside the universe". Metaphorically. Or emptiness and nothingness. I dunno, it's probably something drawn from a metaphysical system I know nothing about.

    Thing I noticed: the two imaginary elements laid out in CM3 are 虚 and 無. Smoosh them together and you get 虚無, Ryougi's origin.

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    Isn't Ryougi's origin normally written as " " or _ or however you want to show that you are leaving a space intentionally blank and that still isn't blank/not there/absent enough to truly represent her origin?
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    「アラヤ、何を求める」
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    「――――真の叡智を」
    Araya, where do you seek it?
    「アラヤ、何処に求める」
    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nununu View Post
    Isn't Ether and Akasha the same thing?
    Ether is an Element, a building block of the universe according to magi.

    Akasha is the record of everything/where everything came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    Ether is an Element, a building block of the universe according to magi.

    Akasha is the record of everything/where everything came from.
    He is referring to the part of fuyuki which mentions that in Greek cosmology Aether performs the function of Akasha

    Edit: it seems in classic Hindu philosophy Akasha is used in place of Aether

    Basically they are both elements that make up everything in the universe
    Araya, what do you seek?
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    Araya, where do you seek it?
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    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    [QUOTE=Mcjon01;281827]I think the distinction might be similar to the difference between "what's inside of a hole"[quote/]

    ...I feel a little bit like commander shephard after, while being told about an enslaved race, hears morridan sang gilbert and sullivan

    "hang on, Im sorry, I am sure what you were just saying was important but....are you telling me sakura's origin might be "the emptiness inside of a hole?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by nununu View Post
    Isn't Ether and Akasha the same thing?
    Akasha is the equivalent of the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    "hang on, Im sorry, I am sure what you were just saying was important but....are you telling me sakura's origin might be "the emptiness inside of a hole?"
    ...and everything this implies.

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    And Aether is the cosmos. So yeah, Nasucraft got me confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    Isn't Ryougi's origin normally written as " " or _ or however you want to show that you are leaving a space intentionally blank and that still isn't blank/not there/absent enough to truly represent her origin?
    I think they do that for the Root, to indicate that the very act of putting a name to it must inherently refer to something else. But Ryougi has a definite origin. Nothingness/Nihility/othertranslationhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    Isn't Ryougi's origin normally written as " " or _ or however you want to show that you are leaving a space intentionally blank and that still isn't blank/not there/absent enough to truly represent her origin?
    That's not her Origin. I think it was either Araya or Touko that actually called out Ryougi's Origin as "nothingness".

    Also, " " is pronouced as "Kara", as in "Kara no Kyoukai". "Kara(空)" is also the name for Ether in the Association's Seven Elements classification.

    Is your brain melting yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    Is your brain melting yet?
    It melted a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    "Kara" is also the name for Ether in the Association's Seven Elements classification.
    Sure it's not "Sora"? Or "Kuu"?

    I mean that as a serious question, actually. Do they put furigana to it anywhere?

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    I know, I am referring to "空", not the actual pronunciation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    KnK is before Fate, but Ryougi's case is the closest thing I can think of actually having Imaginary Element as a person's Origin.

    I can't recall an outright declaration of Sakura's Origin actually being Imaginary Numbers.


    EDIT:

    Or maybe Ryougi's "nothingness" is in a metaphorical and metaphysical sense, not magical sense.
    Then you remember the KnK poster in Sakura's room. Then you realize Nasu's been fucking with you THE WHOLE TIME.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Then you remember the KnK poster in Sakura's room. Then you realize Nasu's been fucking with you THE WHOLE TIME.
    Those who noticed it first experinced the pain of deflowering. From that moment nothing was the same anymore. D:


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    Sakura has a similar Alignment because she's Shiki's fan? o_O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Then you remember the KnK poster in Sakura's room. Then you realize Nasu's been fucking with you THE WHOLE TIME.
    Wait what?

    edit: is this something from Carnival Phantasm?
    Araya, what do you seek?
    「アラヤ、何を求める」
    ------True wisdom.
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    Araya, where do you seek it?
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    Only within myself.
    「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
    「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ!」

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    I know, I am referring to "空", not the actual pronunciation.
    Gotcha, gotcha. Though, in the brief spurt of googling and dictionary humping that aside inspired, I've come to the conclusion that the 空 in the five real elements is probably "Kuu".

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    Wait what?

    edit: is this something from Carnival Phantasm?
    I second this question.

    WHAT?

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