I'm pretty sure they've all been NPs so far.
I'm pretty sure they've all been NPs so far.
Makes sense. I assume they wouldn't be super usable post-AoG, and even then, they'd have to be heavily modified.
Honestly, this question takes me back to when I first joined just 3 months ago. I have definitely changed as a forumite since then.
Last edited by SirGauoftheSquareTable; October 24th, 2018 at 12:48 AM.
Honestly the discussion following at the disbelief of Tamamo's abilities after this point is pretty moot.Originally Posted by Mizukume
Like Nero, Tamamo is a character who is weak at base, but has basically almighty cheat codes that given the right circumstances, master, or joke will use. Sometimes all three at once.
Trying to quantify that is a pretty lost cause.
It's kind of in the same vein as Shuten. But she's also "strong" at base.
Same with Scathach but she's more like presented as uber strong but will always job.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Oh god Atomic Gatorade is exactly the type to think he can control full monster form Tamamo isn't he.
Well duh. But if we're going that route than Buzzcola could easily make her an unparalleled calamity without so much as a sweat from his brow.
He needed a lot of sweat against Herakles, though. Unless you mean to say that it would be easier with Tamamo because of her natural tendencies?
The thing is, in the Extella backstory he still did summon her and she still didn't go full monster. It might be because Extella Atrum wasn't as evil as UBW anime Atrum at least, but there's no way to know comparing VN Atrum and Extella Atrum because we have no clear comparison parameters from either. We only can especulate.
That being said, the Nasuverse often has screwy loose definitions on what counts as 'evil' or 'good' to begin with.
I read this before, it must have been time ago though, now I remember most of this stuff. I remember thinking that Archer had it pretty unfair compared to Saber and Caster. Not that I'd wish what happened to him happened to the other two it's just, why him? That Atrum guy probably would have better off with a male Servant.
Last edited by Laserman; October 24th, 2018 at 08:06 AM.
Spoiler:
Nah. Xuanzang is a Monk multiclassed with Cleric (no, not the other way around). Tamamo is a Sorcerer who picked the Kitsune or somesuch LA+2 race that gives slightly less crap unarmed attacks. But she's still squishy, so whether 1 damage or 1d4 damage she still ain't doing shit unless she busts out the Shocking Grasp.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Naw I would still give Tamamo some levels in monk. Her unarmed attacks are actually quite deadly, case and point.
Polygamist Castration Fist
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Yeah but that's because she uses magic to supercharge them, not because she actually knows martial arts. Heck, she made that move up, remember?
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
I don't know, Mizu did find a mythological anecdote for that attack. Regardless what you suggesting is probably a home-brew variation of Shillelagh then?
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...ist_explained/
So like I said it'a not a martial art but rather a spellstrike, why'd you even bother?"So, Polygamist Castration Fist is a combination of the Dakini Kurukulla's curse which allows subjugation of bad husbands and Amaterasu's mythical leg strength, turning into a deadly kicking move. Case closed."
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
She presents it as a martial art in story though
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
Yes it is a martial art move with the additional effect of a curse. She can use it on Altera don't forget. It is literally described as a series of 5 consecutive kicks. The curse part is the extra deadliness to males, she can still use the martial art moves outside that. And in Foxtail she did said she is hesitant to use her martial art moves cuz "it's not elegant", but she will use them if needed. She is from India, the birthplace of many ancient martial arts and Buddha himself has EX rank and his title is basically king of martial art. Vairocana/Amaterasu is his true form in Shingon.
It's literally and explicitly just moves she made up herself which are only effective because they're powered by magic. It's no more of a martial art than Nero's made up swordsmanship is.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
You do realize that all martial arts are made up moves, right?
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Maybe you should read wuxia novels, to know how martial arts are created and developed.
Astolfo.
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