I remember that, but Saber is so special she hardly a reliable metric.
I was thinking if a Magus with enough magical energy and competence can stall a Servant long enough they fade away in the process (assuming no supply from a Master.)
I remember that, but Saber is so special she hardly a reliable metric.
I was thinking if a Magus with enough magical energy and competence can stall a Servant long enough they fade away in the process (assuming no supply from a Master.)
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What servant? What type of Magus?
I think its possible, but the servant and magus are important.
Dunno, I mainly want to know the mana thing instead of the actual versus one.
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Shirou beat Archer and Sieg beat Amakusa, though there were IDEALS involved in the process.Originally Posted by Spartacus
Archer let himself lose, and Sieg was empowered by Siegfried's heart and Frankenstein's Blasted Tree.
ETA: Plus IDEALS, yes.
I mean, not someone with Servant tier kit or anti-Servant in their disposals like Shirou and Sakura.
I was thinking someone very competent but largely a Magus like Keyneth, Kiritsugu, Rin, etc.
But it also doesn't matter because the question is the circuit one, the versus part is just the reason why I curious to the former.
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If Sabre with her dragon reactor cannot hope to last long even without fighting with no Master supplying her with magical energy, other Servants who possess magic circuits prolly won't do better."Servants take physical form using magical energy, right?
Thensince you can't restore magical energy, you'll get weaker every time you fight?"
I ask her after cleaning up our meal.
"It does not mean I cannot restore any magical energy.
Magical energy is constantly created within oneself. A Servant without any outside source can create magical energy using its own Magic Circuit."
"I see. Then there's no problem, right?"
"…Well, how shall I explain this? Hmm, let me use that faucet as an example.
Water is dripping out of the faucet right now, correct? Please consider that as my magical energy being created. And the cup receiving the drop is me.
In this state, I can accumulate magical energy slowly."
"Well, there will be more dripping water the more water the cup holds.
As long as the cup holds some water, the faucet will create more. But when the water runs out, when I use up my magical energy, the faucet shuts off."
"There will be no supply of magical energy, and the cup will be forever empty."
That means elimination for the Servant.
Either to receive a fatal wound or to lose enough magical energy… Well, the latter rarely occurs."
"…But all you need is at least a drop of water in the cup, right? If there's a bit of water left in the cup, the faucet will create more water and fill the cup up."
"Yes. But the water in the cup is constantly consumed.
It is lost without me doing anything, and it will be lost at a faster pace during battles.
…To put it simply, a more powerful action requires more water. If I am to use my Noble Phantasm, I could empty out the whole cup even if it may be full."
…This is getting complicated now.
To sum it up, as I, her faucet, am not giving her magical energy, she can only restore magical energy at a slow pace. The rate being just that of dripping water.
Therefore, she should end battles as quickly as she can and sleep right after that to stop consuming any unnecessary magical energy.
Independent Skill might help though.
Exactly what I need, thanks.
If the magical energy the Master supplies can suddenly fills their tank enough that fading away is hardly an issue, the magical energy they can produce is so miniscule compared to Magi then.
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It's more like the pressure on them to simply stop existing is enormous, and without an anchor to this world their magical energy goes almost entirely into resisting it.
But they still charge insufficiently without the Master's supply right? The amount of information the quotes give me that impression at least.
But I will check the full-scene to get a bigger context.
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I don't think they can even produce energy on their own, actually. Well, maybe a Servant with a weird Skill like Galvanism or something can, but in general, Servants consume energy just by existing even with a Master as their anchor.
Some servants like Artie can get by without any energy from a master although it’s pretty jank. also Casters usually don’t care much about their master’s supply of energy.
I’m not sure if origin bullets are able to really do much to servants. You hit a body of energy and ??? happens? I don’t think it’d mess them up unless they were using a Noble Phantasm or casting a spell. Even then it wouldn’t really work on non-AoM Casters.
Also a question whether or not they have enough oomph to deal with servants to begin with.
ALL Servants care about energy supply from their Masters. That's why Medea had to resort to stealing energy from the town. And Saber she could last without a Master, what, a few hours? And that's with her dragon core.
So Servants produce magical energy exponentially? The more they have, the more they produce?"Well, there will be more dripping water the more water the cup holds.
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could someone please post here that entire quote about the gods being all the relevant aspects of the world? the one that went "the air was the gods, love as the gods,etc..."?
also, is that quote from babylonia or extella?
I wouldn't say that's exponential growth.
You know the analogy they use there is super broken.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
From Gil's SG in CCC
There's something like this in Babylonia too tho iirc, but I don't have it readily available.In history, the gods of the universe are split into two categories. When things that were already there become gods, and when things are reborn as gods.Things that were already there are when things such as heavenly bodies, like the sun and moon, or natural phenomena, like storms or earthquakes, become the objects of worship.
Things that are reborn as gods is when they were human in the beginning, but due to various factors, they deviated from being human and became the objects of worship. Heroes and messiahs and systems necessary to thrive fall under this category.
The gods of Mesopotamia are of the former category. Natural phenomena possess intentions and personalities and reigned as the laws of heaven. That which those gods sent out in order to remonstrate the people of the earth was Gilgamesh.
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...bylon-Spoilers
The production rate being proportional to how much there is is precisely what exponential growth means
But yeah that analogy makes very little sense.
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