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    Is there anything interesting or new in The Fate/EXTRA Last Encore WORLD/WORD website thing? I tried researching a bit and I could only find the tidbit about Overcount 1999. Translated
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    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Not really. It's the same information as the dictionary you can find in Your Score. It's got some information about Last Encore that is not explicitly stated, but honestly most of it you'd get if you just watched it.

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    Figured, even the Overcount 1999. quote isn’t really new info I think, thx Petri o7
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Sorry for a potentially dumb question but I was looking over Black Barrel and Barrel Replica lore last night and wanted to clarify something.

    Black Barrel Lore recap for anyone who needs it
    OK so Black Barrel is an Atlas Super Weapon that looks like a Rifle and has some goofy sniper additions too. It’s gimmick is that it imposes a concept of “Natural Lifespan” on things meaning things that can’t die now can die, and that it essentially destroys Grain (AKA Ether which later got retconned into being True Ether) dealing damage appropriate to the amount of Grain something has. Anything that has Grain can’t even pick it up but Gun God cause use it cause he was the one thing without Grain in Notes. If the enemy doesn’t have any Grain then it seems to just work like a normal rifle. That’s basically it for OG Black Barrel besides Ciel getting it in OG Tsuki to seal Arcueid and never using it.

    Melty introduces the Barrel Replica, a Replica of the Gun that’s a pistol instead of a rifle and used by Sion. It’s still a Conceptual Weapon with the life span thing from before, but instead of being mentioned to destroy things based on Grain/Ether, Melty’s description says that it deals damage proportional to the amount of life span something has, so essentially deals damage based on how long they have to live. It’s also mentioned that Sion’s not using it for that in gameplay, in gameplay she just uses it like a normal gun and also for her supers she shoots energy beams, probably Magical Energy infused shots hence the Super meter and everything. So it seems the thing can be used as a more generic weapon in combat when not being used for the life span thing.

    Later in FGO, Barrel Replica comes back as something Sion has on hand, and it’s integrated into Mash’s shield, and combined with Poseidon’s Divine Core and a part of Artemis to make the big fuck you canon that can kill Gods (implying I guess Barrel Replica couldn’t before). It still deals damage based on life span (now given an actual unit measurement called Life Scale which Tsukihime Remakes likes to also use on occasion as a short hand for power levels) but requires Guda’s command spell and some life energy to use (probably due to the upgrades). There’s some vague sketchy stuff with Guda’s soul and Black Barrel but we haven’t gotten a full explanation yet.


    So is the difference between Black Barrel and Barrel Replica that BB deals damage based on Grain/True Ether and Barrel Replica deals damage based on Lifescale/Lifespan?

    Edit: The reason I ask btw is because I I’m not sure if the two are actually supposed to do different things or if Lifescale and Grain are just related.
    Last edited by Paulie25; April 22nd, 2025 at 10:26 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    In the nasuverse the easiest way to find out who is the strongest is to have them fight. Whoever loses was the stronger one.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Nasu juggles Chekhov's guns like they're tennis balls

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    I don't think there's been any change. Medusa received the Pegasus from Poseidon, yet it comes out of the Gorgon.
    The usual way people reconcile these two infos is that Gorgon ate the Pegasus and it was born again/escaped when it died.

    And then I headcanon that Chrysaor is a fusion of Euryale and Stheno so everything it ate survived.
    I was going to make a joke about how they should've also picked up the two sisters while at it (Despite them probably being a different case) and only then did I see what you did.
    Dammit.
    Regardless, thanks to y'all for the multitude of responses lol.

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    Could a dead apostle who is suited for water ocean maybe duo to their idea blood simply live off whales

    Like for example sperms whale has 2285 liters of blood compared to 5 liters of blood in adult human.

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    Only if they were a sperm whale to begin with. The important is not the blood but the genes in it.
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    I see, is there in remake text about them being unable to drink none human blood? Like a forest is drinking human blood

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    Also that DAA would be fucked up all the time, it's running water all around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    I see, is there in remake text about them being unable to drink none human blood? Like a forest is drinking human blood
    They can drink non-human blood. But human blood is most efficient because it’s the most similar genetic material. Feeding on animals would be less efficient.

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    An oddball Dead Apostle that lives underwater. Traditionally, vampire folklore states that they cannot cross running water. Rivers and oceans are like impassable barriers to them. Sumire has conquered this weakness, but in exchange it seems that it has become hard for her to move on land.

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    The challenge for all you who know the old lore

    Is Sumire:


    1. A slimegirl
    2. A mermaid
    3. Some kind of mollusc
    4. Another kind of monstergirl I can't be bothered to look up
    5. A selkie (I bothered)
    6. Soggy Drunk Vampire Touko
    7. A blonde girl who looks like saber and is depicted smiling with one foot stepping forward from a 3/4 angle, oh how original takeuchi


    Your time starts now. This will be on the test
    すい
    てん
    ほう
    ふつ
    彿

    はるかな海上の水と空とが接していて、どこまでが水でどこまでが空かはっきり見分けられないさ ま。

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    I think I remember something about alcohol being involved so I will take #6 Alex.
    "Here's a bangin lil' tune about takin' on The Man!"

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    Is Touko really a big sister sort of character? I mean is she really?

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    Number 6, so she kills everyone who calls her Water Bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    For a second I thought you were saying a funny that she was a tall bottle of water, but then I realised that the idiom for tall attractive people is tall glass of water.

    Now I sad.
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    I'd honestly be really worried if she were a selkie.

    Spoiler:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Is Touko really a big sister sort of character? I mean is she really?
    Well, she's a big sister, so technically she is. As for what you're actually asking, do typical "big sister" characters try to murder their little sisters? I'm genuinely asking.
    You are not immune to propoganda, probably.


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    Mine tried to murder me several times, including breaking my wrist by dropping me off a bunk, and throwing a whole cat at my back, leaving me with pretty deep claw scars. But generally onee-sans (the archetype Sumire's description refers to, which is more a Taiga sort of chracter) would be seen as patronizing and wholesome.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Now that I think about it, Taiga rides a motorcycle and carries a wooden sword, and belongs to a yakuza family, embodying the banchou onee-san archetype to a T, except that she is in the wrong genre.

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