Altrouge is not the same as arc..I said she could built a frame. Not that she is born as one. Anyone can be a type after it obtains soul of the planet. Just have to be strong enough frame for that yes.
We did have tsuki no sango that literally built it
We don't know the circumstances of her birth. For all we know she is the Moon's soul that obtained a frame.
If she was also the Earth's soul and born like Tsuki no Sango's version then it would still contradict with Katatsuki Kouhon since she'd be Archetype Earth as well. But she isn't. Not that we can say she has an aritficial frame.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
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She is the sister of arc that we know.
None of that actually contradicts katsuki kouhan. There's nothing says she is one and only thing or that there can be only one.
Her birth doesn't matter cause like she is still a failure like TA as said in the katsuki kouhan.
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If she is same scale as arc that means by the time of piece of blue glass moon she has managed to build a frame capable of being archetype earth.
The Earth and Moon are stated to be sisters. Arc's Moon-based ability is literally called Blut der Schwester (Blood-Sister) both in MB and Extra.
It would be a direct contradiction if the Earth's Brain was born before the Earth's Brain was created by the TAs. A frame corresponding to Earth's Alter Ego was only created with Arc's birth, this not up for debate.
You're arguing she is the Earth's Brain just like Arc is. That wouldn't make her a failure, quite the opposite.
You're also arguing she built her frame as opposed to being born as such. There is nothing suggesting that's the case.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
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by the time of "blue glass moon"
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She is a royalty. A brunestud. And true ancestors are of earth.
There's nothing to connect her to moon. .
It is only as much as you can connect arc to moon.
You can't "grow" into being Archetype Earth, even if she gained a new frame. You either are or aren't. And the only way to attain that position is by being born as the planet's soul. Whether the vessel is natural or artificial that's not important. The only thing important here is to be the Earth's soul specifically.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
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No one says she can grow. Only an artificial frame could possibly match arc in existence and challenge her position.
You are indeed are or aren't. Whoever holds the earth's soul wins i guess..
You aren't holding earth's soul. Arc is the Earth's soul made manifest. Or a copy of it. But we know Altrouge is not, whether her frame is artificial or not doesn't really matter.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
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Of course there's no denying that arc currently holds the soul of the earth.
That would be a complete meme, and not a funny one. At least it would be really confusing.Originally Posted by Ratman
Was it ever mentioned how much heat Goetia's Ars Almadel Salomonis is? Like is it hotter than the sun?
...So all of Archetype Inception is basically pointless drivel because none of those guys could have made it because they're Rock Lee rather than Neji?
Is the idea that there's meta-arcueid who enters Kiara's lewd body once Kiara manages to infect everyone with her Anti-Life Equation? In that case, Altrouge can definitely be the Archetype, it's just that she's not because Arcueid exists.
Basically, and without shitposting, if the premise of OC3 is to make any kind of sense at all, it should be possible for the soul of a planet to enter a body that wasn't born as the soul of the planet, provided that some very abstract conditions are fulfilled.
I mean, I understand that OC3 is not actually about people trying to become the Archetype, but you'd think people would stop trying to make vessels for the archetype if it didn't work that way.
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unfortunately, nasu is one step ahead of you with people making plans for seemingly important narrative beats that would fundamentally never work anyways
Until he comes up with the 'and everyone in the world of magecraft knows about Bardon's Rule of Peepeepoopoo Googoo Gaga which states you can totally steal someone's magic crest if you're compatible (what compatible means is very vaguely defined)'.
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But yeah, just on account of Altrouge's existence, I'm really not convinced brain of the planet status is definitive. And that's with Olga being clearly the Ultimate One of Chaldeas rather than Earth proper.
Until Alrouge appears in a proper story with CG of her figure and face,she does not exist for me and discussion is meaningless.Alt who?
The only Archetype in OC3 was the microchip BB Dubai was safeguarding, that's it.
That one Archetype in particular could have made it to a different planet and become the planet's soul in order to create a new intelligent species.
The timeline itself was also going to be pruned because humanity wasn't sending the Archetype into space. So that tells you how much of a big deal the creation of an Archetype actually is.
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Also I'm fairly certain Olga is not an Archetype/planet's soul. Reason being she is a Servant with a Spirit Origin, and an Archetype has a World-Egg frame which is superior to a Spirit Origin in quality.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
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I mean that's what moon scientist did to put the soul of the moon into a body they created.
It's not just "possible"..it's been done.
U Olga is a Servant with a Spirit Origin, the Priestess is not.
Since u Olga got spilt or rather dissected as her backstory suggests. I am sure she got divided into multiple entities possibly.
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She also got beast class on her saint graph despite not being from this planet. She is a clusterfuck to make any assumptions on
I'm a bit skeptical on her as well. They describe her as an immaterial entity with no agency that's just there to observe and record stuff. But who knows, hard to tell at this point.
The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.
Tsukihime 2 Prelude III
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