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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    The train station?

    It's like downtown Shinto, Shirou and gang were near it several times.

    If you mean the actual trains, no. No one took a train during the Grail War.
    Which scenes? Or is there no actual cg for it?

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    They just mention it here and there when they are in Shinto.

    You can comb through the game for them if you have massive amount of free time.

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    All the protagonists seem to prefer walking. I don't think any of them have ever been shown using any sort of public transportation, ever.

    EDIT: Oh wait, no! Shirou and Saber ride the train during their date, I think. You only see the interior, though.
    Last edited by celsius; June 19th, 2012 at 05:22 PM.

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    thats the bus...

    the station seems to be somewhere in between the intersection and shirous house...

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    The "station" in that scene was the train station. It was in Shinto.

    But it seems the bus unloads there, too.
    Last edited by food; June 19th, 2012 at 05:44 PM.

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    makes sense to put a buss station next to a train station...

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    Is Shirou's ability to project considered True Magic? It's basically creating something from nothing. It seems up there with the other stuff like time travel in breaking the laws of the world.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Projection is standard noob magecraft, not True Magic. Shirou just cheats with it.

    It's not creating something from nothing, it's making something out of something else.
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    He just apparently ignores the law of equivalent exchange as he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyrin View Post
    Projection is standard noob magecraft, not True Magic. Shirou just cheats with it.

    It's not creating something from nothing, it's making something out of something else.
    What something else? He just holds out his hand and stuff appears.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    He just apparently ignores the law of equivalent exchange as he does.
    He doesn't. He still pays prana.

    It would be ignoring equivalent exchange if he projected from nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    What something else? He just holds out his hand and stuff appears.
    All that "Trace on" stuff are spells.

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    He creates an illusory image of something from something else, and it vanishes soon after.

    It's no more true magic than those heat shimmers you see hovering over asphalt roads in summer.
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    "Just who is he?"
    Tohsaka murmurs in a tone that could be angry or horrified.
    Saber is standing silently behind her.

    "I can't believe it. Saber, you knew about this…?"
    "…No, I did not know. I am a knight, not a magus. There was only an odd feeling here, so I do not understand the situation as well as you do."

    "I see. Then I'll tell you. He's not a magus at all."
    In a voice filled even with hatred,
    Tohsaka spits those words out.

    "…Rin. What does that mean?"
    "Just like it sounds.
    Magic is an equivalent exchange after all. No matter what kind of magic it is, it can only bring what's elsewhere here to use it."

    "…But this is different. He's bringing something that comes from nowhere. He's forming something that should not exist here.
    That can only be a concept that violates reality.
    His magic is probably a deteriorated version of that one magic."
    Any idea which "that one magic" is?

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    That's got to be the First.

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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    He doesn't. He still pays prana.

    It would be ignoring equivalent exchange if he projected from nothing.


    All that "Trace on" stuff are spells.
    But the weapons he project have more magic energy then he could ever contain. How is that possibly equivalent exchange?
    Araya, what do you seek?
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    Araya, where do you seek it?
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    Only within myself.
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    Araya, what is your favorite color?
    「アラヤ、好きな色は?」
    Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by food View Post
    That's got to be the First.
    Thanks.
    Do you know in which way is it similar to the First?

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraablaze View Post
    But the weapons he project have more magic energy then he could ever contain. How is that possibly equivalent exchange?
    Because they don't stick around. They're there, they exist for a while, they vanish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicholic View Post
    Thanks.
    Do you know in which way is it similar to the First?
    Creating something from nothingness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyak View Post
    Because they don't stick around. They're there, they exist for a while, they vanish.
    Pretty damn long while. Like... dunno, years?

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    Do I sense another pots & pans discussion going on?

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