IYKWIMOriginally Posted by Marmadillo
IYKWIM
The Archer class is characteristic of those who have low stats but good skills and strong projectile NPs.
Are you saying EMIYA doesn't completely fit that bill?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
If you can consistently fight with high level servants even when they're unimpeded and in a field that not even your specialty then you're sure as hell not low level. Your stats may be low but clearly your have the abilities to make up for it.
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Archers also fight using archery.
he showed shirou his reality marble and shirou took it as his own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnCDIMfirw8&t=7m12s
I don't get what you're saying here
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
You said that EMIYA can 'sometimes contend' as if FSN isn't filled with EMIYA fighting high level servants in disadvantageous circumstances.
That just means you're not low level at fighting. You're talking about being a "high level Servant."
Which he is explicitly is not.
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Not all Archers are archers. The qualifying basis definitely isn't owning a bow.
As shown by many Archers in the series who aren't bowmen or bow-women.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
When you talk about High Level are you talking purely about stats? Because that's the only metric by which EMIYA is not high level.
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The Archer who fights the closest to EMIYA is Chiron and he gets his shoulder cut open the moment he fights another knight class in melee.
Hello.
I've been lurking for quite a while now, reading silently all the interesting conversations going on so far. Except this one, can you please stop beating about the bush and dodge any argument supported by evidences? You keep bringing up your fantasy and completly ignore what other people say to you.
The gay pics were the most entertaining thing going on in this discussion.
For God's sake can you stop ? Thank you.
Fame, age, mystery...
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It will never stop, new person. Flee! Flee while you still can!
It's painful to watch this thread being active for the wrong reasons.
Are you talking to me? Because I've given more cites in this than anyone here and I try to answer every point.
Gay porn is never a wrong reason
So now the vile truth comes out. You guys are just prejudiced against Counter Guardians. I thought we had move on past that kind of bigotry but I guess I was wrong.Fame, age, mystery...
."There is a change in one or two of the classes every Holy Grail War, but we have a basic lineup this time. The standard opinion is that Saber is the best Servant.
Each class has their own special characteristics, but the abilities of the Servants differ according to the rank of the heroic spirit summoned."
"Rank of the heroic spirits… you mean how strong they were when they were alive?"
What they did and what weapons they had do not change, but their basic abilities change depending on how famous they are in this time.
Heroic spirits are like gods, so they grow stronger the more people worship them."
"I guess you can say it solidifies their presence. It's the same as divine spirits falling to the rank of spirits when they lose their faith. Heroes that are forgotten by the people do not have much power.
But then, even if they are forgotten or unknown, if he was originally a powerful hero, then I think he can keep his powers to some extent."
"…Then if it's a hero everyone knows, and if their story was extraordinary"
"They would undoubtedly be a Rank A Servant.
Berserker might be the strongest in that regard too.
After all, he is the most famous hero in Greek mythology.
The heroes from the age of gods have special Noble Phantasms just because of that, and if the hero itself is strong to add to that, there's nothing much we can do."
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"Right. To be blunt, heroes themselves cannot match powerful spells or mysteries.
But it's a different story when the Noble Phantasms come in.
Heroes wielding Noble Phantasms can even defeat spirits of several ranks higher.
It's because most holy and demonic swords appearing in legends are close to the level of sorcery."
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
legendary post
The subject of EMIYA being TOP TIER has become an abstraction where it doesn't matter what that actually means as long as EMIYA is it. Otherwise EMIYA's capabilities are explicitly described in the quotes You posted.
Also marm and asterism you did great but it's time to wind down the shitposting.
That has nothing to do with the fact that EMIYA has low stats and a good projectile NP therefore making him characteristic of the Archer class?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
What differentiated an esper from a magus again? And was there ever more than one person in the Alliance of Illusionary Eyes?
Are you trying to say that because EMIYA doesn't have a legend that he can't be high level?
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