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    Quote Originally Posted by madarra View Post
    i mean, these abstracted legend NP`s are "created by the throne" when the hero is recorded and since you get recorded when you get famous enough for humans to notice you, consciously (as in actually famous) or unconsciously(Alaya knows you are important enough to qualify) you could argue that these NP`s are created by humans, since its their minds that create the hero. so they arent Divine constructs

    As for why Harpe isnt a divine construct... idk, might have to tackle this from the MECHA history angle. Harpe was used by Cronus to depose Ouranus of his "
    procreation facilities
    balls
    " and position of top dog so it might originally be some shit like a computer virus.
    now, idk how well the Mecha history lines up with the greek myth, but Harpe existed before Ares was born and in Nasuverse Ares wielded the "Prototype that all Divine constructs would be based on"(the space battleships beam weapon systems) , so logically NO divine constructs whatsoever existed before this moment in time even if they were crafted by gods?

    so my conclusion would be that Harpe was created by the "humans worship/interpretation" of the tale of Cronus taking over Ouranus`s position, and as earlier i was bullshiting that weapons crafted by the throne are crafted by human minds therefore not divine constructs, Harpe being turned from computer code/virus into a weapon by human minds also makes it not a divine construct
    It's important to note that Greek Myth is largely unaffected - the Gods no longer have their mechanical bodies by the time Greek Myth rolls around and so they are just divine spirits with terminals (avatars).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    Wanna check something

    Nps are part of servants saint graphs right?
    Yes, SF Jack getting his jacked by Alk trashed him pretty badly.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaya View Post
    If Roa is destroyed before he decides on a vessel
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    It resorts to an automatic function and just picks someone suitable.
    Ah, I think the original even mentioned that, didn't it? My bad.
    Thanks for answering!

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    死徒二十七祖 The Twenty Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors madarra's Avatar
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    in the original its kinda implied Roa ended up in Ciel cuz he didnt have time to find a wealthy powerfull body so he just got a powerful body

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Yes, SF Jack getting his jacked by Alk trashed him pretty badly.
    I was just thinking on how that works for some servants like gil considering his like soul/saint graph whatever is like 4 times the average.

    I mean i could just go with the meta answer

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    IIRC the 4 servants is regarding the amount of magic energy he is worth when dismantled into mana prisms.

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    Even in his servant form Gil is referred to have more magical energy than every other servant, and after devouring him Sakura compares him to several hundreds of thousands of human souls.

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    So has that whole anti-heroes being unrestrained by the counter force thing been retconned?

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    has anyone put together a master post or anything of the like that explains how the magic system(s) work? I've been trying to help a friend get into the nasuverse and I'm struggling to find a source of info that isn't full of misinfo

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    That'd be really useful to have and I hope someone can reply with a good post, but every entry in the series provides all the information that's relevant to their respective stories. You don't need to delay your friend's start for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    You don't need to delay your friend's start for that.
    don't worry I'm not they are predominantly interested in the magic system is all and i want to give them source that isn't the wiki lol

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    There's Theory of Magic
    It's old though.

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    I think it goes like:

    - Humans engrave traditions into the land as foundations
    - Magi access formula within those foundations (reading a line from a book)
    - Putting magical energy into a formulae actualizes a spell
    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    canon finish apo vol 3

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    What does Order mean? Does it refer to the laws of physics of any one current era? Or something else?
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

    Tsukihime 2 Prelude III

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    It is helpful to think about it as meaning the laws of physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    What does Order mean? Does it refer to the laws of physics of any one current era? Or something else?
    Seems to refer to the metaphysical principles and laws that govern the present world (of man).

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    Isn't it any law? I remember them referring to a mage's family necessity to have heirs and pass on their crests as their Grand Order.

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    I think it's in reference to the abstract concept of order, as in giving order to any thing. Man-made patterns, laws, definitions, and any other useful synonim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Isn't it any law? I remember them referring to a mage's family necessity to have heirs and pass on their crests as their Grand Order.
    秩序, not オーダー

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    Of course hahahaha

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