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    So question, I have been looking for translations of Suzuka Gozen's three blades names for awhile as I am wondering what Otakemaru might be able to use them for.

    But other then that "Ren" is a word for Lotus I am having a hard time nailing Kenmyōren, Daitōren, and Shōtōren down. I know they belong to a Bhoddishatva so they are holy blades, and the Lotus is connected to Enlightenment, but I would really like to know what full translations of their names are.

    Does anyone have an idea?

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    Perhaps overly direct translations, but:

    顕明連 Kenmyouren - Lotus of Clarity
    大通連 Daitouren - Lotus of the Greater Path
    小通連 -Shoutouren - Lotus of the Lesser Path

    There's probably a more dramatic name you could come up with for the first one, but that would serve as a direct translation of the kanji at least. My cursory search couldn't turn up any deeper significance to the name, though I'm sure there is one out there.

    "Path" in this case being (or at least thought to be) a reference to Abhijñā, the Buddhist concept of the special knowledge (and supernatural powers) obtained through virtuous living, meditation etc. So maybe "Lotus of Greater/Lesser Knowledge" would be more appropriate? Or even something like "Greater/Lesser Lotus of Knowledge."
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    the 'ren' in their name is not the 'ren' for lotus. though it is similar. lotus is 蓮. 大通連・小通連・顕明連 are their names. 連 can mean various things contextually. I think it is appropriate here to consider it simply as an indicator of the swords' belonging to a 'set'

    I would just call them Greater Ability, Lesser Ability, and Clear Awareness

    unless you would prefer to render their names in Pali or Sanskrit
    Last edited by Dullahan; October 23rd, 2020 at 03:43 AM.
    かん
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    じゅう
    とう

    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」— Tang Dynasty


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    Were all mythological gods true gods at first then regressed to divine spirits? I've been hearing that they were really divine spirits and the only true gods confirmed are the machine gods, tiamat and mesopotamian pantheon and if skadi is any indication the norse pantheon

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    Quetzalcoatl was an alien germ that arrived with the meteor impact and gave divine powers to the animals and later people it used as hosts. The Olympians were a fleet of robot colonizing ships. The Mesopotamians miiiight have originally come from off-world as well, if comments about Tiamat's interplanetary flight are to be taken seriously. (Presumably all the actual gods were created on Earth, though.)

    We know little and less about the rest of the pantheons, though. Even Skadi is a thing where we know that she's a god and not really anything beyond that re:her origins.

    Oh, and IIRC the Hindu pantheon were true gods before LB4 happened? Might be wrong on that one, though.

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    A God is a living being that exists on the same plane of existence as people, plants, animals, etc, while a Divine Spirit is a spiritual being that resides in a higher dimension(s). It seemingly parallels the difference between Heroic Spirit and the original hero.

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    The Greek Gods didn't ascend to a higher dimension when Sefar destroyed their bodies, considering most of their deeds are post Sefar, as well as those of their children and descendants, which wouldn't have happened if they were already in "a higher dimension". There's no similarity to the HS/original hero relationship. It's only when the AoG ended that Divine Spirits migrated/faded(?) to wherever "a higher dimension" is now.

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    sefar caused the great flood, cmv
    かん
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」— Tang Dynasty


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    fuck, they might actually do that

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    The Divine Spirits were shadows of the formerly living gods, which does kind of parallel HS's.
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    I think some pantheons purely being divine spirits is ok, if Nasu decides to give every pantheon an actual god turned ds shtick, that's gonna take a while to finish.

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    Wouldn't something always being a Divine Spirit since its origin run counter to what a Divine Spirit is?

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    Most of our examples have been a God loses their body -> now a Divine Spirit (barring the unknowns like the Abrahamic God and such). I don't get how that's "gonna take a while to finish", as if we're going to get everything over time if it's not relevant to the story beyond mats and trivia.

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    Yeah, chances are that all we'll ever get is a vague "all divine spirits used to be gods etc., with some exceptions like [weird obscure mythological figure]".
    (also it'll be a single random sentence hidden in the NP description of Santa Gilgamesh in FGO Mats 69)

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