Yeah kinda, it's been a thing since MEoDP.
Yeah kinda, it's been a thing since MEoDP.
Standardized translations with a unified lore bible that would set the standard for all of the Nasuverse's stuff going forward would also be nice if we're wishing for stuff, lol
After rewatching Zero, Fate, UBW and Heaven's Feel...finishing the visual novel for the third time...and reading the official material about Fate Zero and Fate Stay Night...I come to the conclusion that the ritual of the holy grail needs 4 "big and importants elements".
1.- The Grail Vessel (Iri and Illya)
2.- The Lesser Grail (which is found inside Iri and Illya later)
3.- The Dress of Heaven (Which can only be controlled by a Homunculus)
4.- The Greater Grail (which is found in the caverns below the city of Fuyuki)
Am I right?...or am I missing something?
Last edited by Jesse1089; January 22nd, 2022 at 02:14 AM.
I don't recall Sakura needing the Dress of Heaven, though perhaps there was something else that compensated for that.
And looking Apocrypha, all that's really needed is the Greater Grail, though you could perhaps argue still needing a grail vessel.
There's a Lesser Grail in Apocrypha, purposely kept in a broken state to keep the Greater Grail from going into wish mode but not broken enough to cause the Greater Grail to glitch out. So Greater and Lesser are definitely needed. The "vessel" is just the Lesser Grail in another form, so it's the same thing. The Dress of Heaven seems to just basically be admin rights, so it's not necessary.
According to the Material Works Dress of Heaven function is to control the Greater Grail...so I'd say it is necessary...
If you're looking to establish the Third on a wide scale like intended, it's probably necessary, which is why Amakusa had to manually go inside it. But otherwise, it seems to be completely set up to self-function in the capacity of generic wish granter. Darnic's setup seems to have been completely without issue as far as we're shown.
Is the mass of meat attached to Shinji Illya's heart? but growing out of control because he is unsuited for the job?
What exactly are the textures of reality? I've seen the term used before and just kinda brushed it off but I saw the tsukihime RE finale I'm really confused
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So did gil use a grail in babylonia for the servants or not, i think its the latter but Why did he do that if thats the case
have not read it in a while
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Yesterday I was talking with some friends who are beginners in the nasuverse... and a question came up...
Why do so many people confuse Iri and Illya being the Lesser Grail if they are the vessel and not the Lesser Grail?...
Is it because they need each other to work and because the Lesser Grail is melted and integrated in the vessel?
It makes the person bringing the distinction up sound pedantic. Imagine you saw a car go really fast and you told the owner his car was good, and then he corrected you saying that it's the engine that's good. That's what it sounds like.
Why did Caren remember about Angra in the world outside the loop? Wasn't she supposed to not remember anything because the real her wasn't part of the four days?
Am I supposed to not think too hard about it just like which timeline the epilogue takes place in?
Spoiler:
I simply never interpreted the epilogue as outside of the dream because Arthuria and Medusa were there.
Do we have a date for humanity CF?
I ask cause it feels like humanity CF seems to operate in a odd timescale since it operated in a time when gods were the dominate ones of the planet