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    Okay, so I'm quite interested in this myself (writing Fate fanfics with a bunch of unique magus) So I wanna see if I'm understanding this by way of metaphor. So, your Magical Foundation is like the school of science you use to approach a problem, the mystery is the formula you use to reach the answer and the mechanics is the answer itself? So like for example -

    Foundation = Mathematics = Rune Magecraft

    Mystery = Pythagorean Theorum = Blood Ritual

    Mechanism = Length of the Hypotanuse = Conversion magecraft

    Anyone would be able to tell by observing your magecraft that you reached a certain conclusion, 42 is the same number regardless of the school of thought used to reach it, and depending on the framing, might be able to tell your Foundation, but unless they know your formula, they won't be able to get from Foundation to Mechanism by themselves, thus maintaining the mystery of a given mage's research? Sorry if that sounds a bit asinine, I'm just trying to frame it in a way I can understand.
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    In the Millennium Castle in the inner sea (when Arc isn't manifesting it)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    In the Millennium Castle in the inner sea (when Arc isn't manifesting it)?
    Yeah, pretty much.

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    RIP Himalaya theory
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    Punching out some nerd doesn't make you a better magus.

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    Clearly you can noclip into the Inner Sea from the peak of Mount Everest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    RIP Himalaya theory
    Golden Throne much?

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    I have a few questions about Aoko's magecraft:

    During mahoyo, we are told Aoko has three kinds of "bullets": Snap, Draw and Magic Blow. Are these bullets and Starbow and Starmine related or are they complietely different things that can be used together? Also, during the story, she uses "
    Tour Plan
    Bullet configuration:
    Starmine!
    convergent launch!
    " twice, but only the second time is Magic Blow mentioned, was the first time also this kind of bullet and they left the "reveal" for latter or was it unrelated?

    Finally, is it known what "Spindle Tourer: Self-Sustaining Magic Square" is or does? The quick movement and defense forms are kinda self-explanatory, but normal and expansion not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrikow View Post
    Yeah, pretty much.
    smh Merlin lying with his "there are no walls, no castles" NP line.

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    It's probably correct for Fate worlds.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    smh Merlin lying with his "there are no walls, no castles" NP line.
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    It's probably correct for Fate worlds.
    I suspect Merlin is talking specifically about Avalon rather than the Inner Sea as a whole. Well, that's if you're supposed to take it literally at all.

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    Can someone point to me the information that says that all souls return to the root and where it explicitly says this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAion View Post
    Can someone point to me the information that says that all souls return to the root and where it explicitly says this.
    I recall it's actually that the soul disperses into the atmosphere while the Origin is what is sent through the Root.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAion View Post
    Can someone point to me the information that says that all souls return to the root and where it explicitly says this.
     本来、肉体から離れ大気に散った霊子……魂のような物は、そのまま無に落ちていきます。
     これは弱い流れが大きな流れに取り込まれるの
    と同じで、抗えない自然の働きです。
     肉体という檻から開放された霊子は、意思すら
    も解脱した為に流れに逆らうという方向性がなく、
    大本である無に落ちて次の変換を待つのだとか。
    Melty Blood (the original). Technically it just says souls return to the foundational nothingness, but that couldn't be much else.

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    "Svin Glascheit and Flat Escardos are considered to be the "real vanguard" when it comes to the advancement of the New Agers"
    >Svin Glascheit
    >Flat Escardos
    >guys with ancient lineages
    >New Agers
    what did sanda mean by this

    What's the point of "New Agers are swell" in general if every known person involved in this movement from an old family sans Waver. This feels like wanting to have your cake and eat it too/being unable to commit to the bit.

    Sort of related to the previous discussion, but if someone explained their magic to thin air, no one around at all, would it degrade the Mystery? Or is it safe to talk out loud to yourself?

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    I didn't go deep into Case Files but the point isn't having new families, it's their attitude and involvement with Modern Magecraft.
    It's not like the democratic faction in the clock tower isn't propped up by old families either, by the very nature of magi society you can't do away with that aspect completely.

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    I guess? But they seem pretty defined by their shallow bloodlines, because this point is harped on a ton. Like, the Democratic faction is fine with them specifically because they need a weakling proletariat to rule over?

    Actually, speaking of factions: I wasn't going to ask because I was sure I could find it again myself, but I can't, so: I swear to god I read somewhere that the origin of the Aristocratic and Democratic factions was that, when the industrial revolution happened, the dems were like "let's help this along to weaken the church : )" and the aristocrats were like "that seems like a bad idea, let's not do that". But the closest information I could find was listed on the wiki's timeline page as "1800 AD: Industrial Revolution of England begins. Technology negatively affects the world of magi. The Holy Church negatively affects the world of magi. Aristocratic and Democratic factions form." which at least tells me I didn't hallucinate the whole thing, but it's lacking in the specific details I remember.

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    they got one group of aristocrats to call themselves 'democrats' as a joke - kids still haven't figured it out yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsugumi View Post
    Sort of related to the previous discussion, but if someone explained their magic to thin air, no one around at all, would it degrade the Mystery? Or is it safe to talk out loud to yourself?
    Depends on whether or not you're livestreaming it to a remarkably high-count Twitch audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    they got one group of aristocrats to call themselves 'democrats' as a joke - kids still haven't figured it out yet
    Haven't read that the Dems and Aris split due to the Church. But ^ is literally how it works.
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