Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[Dullahan]

sure, the Great British Bake-Off is held there every other season

[Lily Emilio]

If the Time Temple is a physical place you can go, does that mean the Throne of Heroes, which also exists outside of time, is also a physical place you could theoretically go?

Might want to ask Benienma about that.

[Gray]

So I guess it'd kind of like some variant of the afterlife really.
Just one that stuck around much longer than the others and isn't localized to a specific timeline.
If it's a physical place I do wonder how they handle all those contradicting versions of each hero.
Several versions in there are once or a bunch of composite entities interacting in some nonsensical and paradoxical situation?

[Dullahan]

The answer is that it's not a physical location. It's never been a physical location. It has always, consistently, since FSN, been a metaphysical locus exterior to spatial and temporal reality.

Except when a joke character comes along and decides that it's not because jokes.

It's funny, isn't it? I'm laughing.

You're laughing too.

We all laugh here.

Because it's so funny.

[the god of world-0]

I think it's funny...

[Lily Emilio]

So I guess it'd kind of like some variant of the afterlife really.

In LB3, QSH told Yu Meiren to go to the throne so that her memories of Xiang Yu is updated to his record. So it's not an afterlife in the normal sense of it, unless when Yu got there she checks in for a room then write her report about her husbando to submit it to the Throne manager for HS update.

[the god of world-0]

Hotel throne of heroes

[Gray]

So when a Phantom is fused to a Heroic Spirit the Skills or NP they grant are boosted, correct?
Are they boosted to equal the level they'd be if they were an actual Heroic Spirit or are the abilities boosted beyond those demonstrated in their myth?

[SpoonyViking]

Hotel throne of heroes

You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave.

[LJ3]

Might want to ask Benienma about that.

The answer is that it's not a physical location. It's never been a physical location. It has always, consistently, since FSN, been a metaphysical locus exterior to spatial and temporal reality.

Except when a joke character comes along and decides that it's not because jokes.

It's funny, isn't it? I'm laughing.

You're laughing too.

We all laugh here.

Because it's so funny.

This has always been one of the things I've hated, trying to turn the ToH into a physical location because Hotel Chaldea.

Absolutely stupid.

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So when a Phantom is fused to a Heroic Spirit the Skills or NP they grant are boosted, correct?
Are they boosted to equal the level they'd be if they were an actual Heroic Spirit or are the abilities boosted beyond those demonstrated in their myth?

You'd have to recheck Shinjuku. Your first category is pointless because they'll never be HS according to their criteria so don't bother. The second I'm doubting off the top of my head; when Moriarty talks to Lobo about giving him Invisible Man, he mentions that by it self it's practically mediocre. It only becomes effective because of Lobo's innate strength which gets harder to deal with because you become John Cena.

So maybe not? Actually, what did Hessian even do for Lobo?

[You]

The Big O'l Library in the Sky

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

The answer is that it's not a physical location. It's never been a physical location. It has always, consistently, since FSN, been a metaphysical locus exterior to spatial and temporal reality.

Except when a joke character comes along and decides that it's not because jokes.

It's funny, isn't it? I'm laughing.

You're laughing too.

We all laugh here.

Because it's so funny.

Yeah not quite, at least the idea that Benienma is responsible for it becoming a physical location. That honor belongs to Jeanne managing to leave it to get to the Reverse Side to be with her dragon husbando.

[AmADo VII]

Yeah not quite, at least the idea that Benienma is responsible for it becoming a physical location. That honor belongs to Jeanne managing to leave it to get to the Reverse Side to be with her dragon husbando.

Jeanne left the throne after humanity no longer needs salvation/HS though.

[forumghost]

Jeanne left the throne after humanity no longer needs salvation/HS though.

What does that matter? The fact is Apoc established that the ToH is somewhere that you can physically just leave whenever you have a hot date, which is hecking dumb.

[You]

Jeanne left the throne after humanity no longer needs salvation/HS though.

what, she just ditched that place.
There's no indication of a time because that would defeat the purpose.

[AmADo VII]

What does that matter? The fact is Apoc established that the ToH is somewhere that you can physically just leave whenever you have a hot date, which is hecking dumb.

Jeanne never left throne on her own when the throne still functions.

the reason why you can summon Jeanne in FGO.

[You]

Jeanne never left throne on her own when the throne still functions.

the reason why you can summon Jeanne in FGO.

Yeah that's the issue. This is how the Throne is characterized:

"That's how it's supposed to be, but even now that I've been summoned, I don't have a clear idea what I want it for... What mages call the 'Throne' is a special place. Even time and world lines are all mixed up, to say nothing of space. It's possible that I might find a reason to want the Grail when I'm summoned in another time or place, but at the very least I don't have those memories now."

elsewhere."
"Even if they are in the past...?"
There was no concept of past or future in the Throne. Taking in all of a Heroic Spirit's memories would created contradictions, such as knowing the outcome of a Grail War they were currently participating in. Their memories were therefore supposedly adjusted to match the time and place to which they were summoned.
"It may be a desperate measure on the part of the Throne to curb the world's contradictions, even if only slightly, but it is a wasted effort in the face of my eyes, which see through all futures. Analogizing the past based on a future of a different phase is a simple matter."

If there is a point in time where the Throne doesn't function, it would exist for all time because there is no concept of past or future. If the Throne stopped working 100 years from now, it would have never worked 100 years in the past either.

[migliole]

Most of what happens in the story involves very serious business like controlling and modifying spirit graphs and as far as I read, you could literally do anything with all devices inside Chaldea. That is, FGO timeline actually make jokes happen, which also make them canon (as in something that happened and is recorded as fact).

Woudn't that mean that joke characters and other things that exist only because of Takeuchi pervertness could actually be summonable, like, in any universe? Could this impact non-Fate timelines as well, like the Tsukihime ones?

TL;DR What is the true permanent impact of FGO on Nasuverse?

[Dullahan]

nothing at all.

what you should be asking is what is the true permanent impact of FGO's fans on the nasuverse

a much more dire and disconcerting question.

[migliole]

Indeed, in this case FGO being impactful would be an easier to solve scenario than its fans being impactful. Thanks.