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    Works as well as any other explanation.

    Actually, now that I think about it, did Beasts not exist in the Age of Gods because they are born by Humanity?
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    They existed, they just weren't Beasts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    They existed, they just weren't Beasts.
    That about answers my question.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    So what is the in-lore explanations for NPs increasing in rank, like Balmung reaching rank EX for example
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
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    ok, but in general, what causes it for Servants, in general?

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    please remind me, what is the circumstantial evidence that leads people to think that King Hassan may have a second NP?
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    ok, but in general, what causes it for Servants, in general?

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    please remind me, what is the circumstantial evidence that leads people to think that King Hassan may have a second NP?
    Either plot, or the Servants reaching a level that they should be at.

    And KH is still a Hassan, he likely has his own Zabaniya for assassination purposes, unless that's a thing he somehow gave up when he decided to go Skull Armour Gramps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    ok, but in general, what causes it for Servants, in general?

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    please remind me, what is the circumstantial evidence that leads people to think that King Hassan may have a second NP?
    all hassans are said to have a zabaniya, he doesn't have one
    which is pretty flimsy since he was considered a legend even among then and zabaniyas could just be shittier descendants of his superior techniques

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    Also he needs to have one for what we know about Zealot to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Also he needs to have one for what we know about Zealot to be true.
    this is fanfic territory but what do you think his 2nd ability will be?

    the power to disguise himself really well?
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Also he needs to have one for what we know about Zealot to be true.
    Considering Strange Fake appears to be a mishmash of possible universes, that might not be true.
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    IMHO if asked about his Zabaniya King Hassan would probably say something along the lines of:

    "Guaranteed Assassination Technique? Fool, what's the point of that? All assassination attempts should be guaranteed to work. Bring out thy head!"

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    Zealot says herself that she doesn't fully understand some of the Zabaniyas she has, maybe her stand-in for Gramps is just a degraded version of Azrael that she doesn't know is not a Zabaniya?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    this is fanfic territory but what do you think his 2nd ability will be?

    the power to disguise himself really well?
    He already does that, I have no idea what other power they'd give him.

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    Considering Strange Fake appears to be a mishmash of possible universes, that might not be true.
    Would they really add alternate timeline Hassans when we still haven't seen like 14 of them? I don't know about that.

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    Zealot herself is probably an alternate timeline wibbly wobbly timey wimey... liney.
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    Not really? What makes you think that?

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    Or maybe Zealot is nuttier then a fruitcake and honestly doesn't get what being a Hassan is about, which is why she's a reject and not a real Old Man of the Mountain?

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    May I ask a question? From what little I know of Type Moon's mechanics (the basics of them), when a servant is summoned in their home country and fights there they receive a rank up to their stats, right (please correct me and or flesh out the mechanic I am referring to)? So seeing as Emiya was summoned in Japan, his birthplace, during Fate, did he recieve a rank up to his stats, like Vlad did from being summoned in Romania during Apocrypha? Did he not recieve one due to the fact that he is unknown to the world at large, having neither fame nor infamy in regards to humanity? Is there something I am missing about that mechanic in general? Thank you for any insight you can provide. It was an idol thought that just randomy popped into my head yesterday and I couldn't get it out of my mind afterwards.
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