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    Dunno about spoiler-free ones, but the overwhelming majority agrees that the remake is superior. I've yet to see a negative review, but I'm holding black from saying it's an unanimous opinion.

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    If in a different timeline Waver had decided to participate in the 5th HGW like he had originally been considering and taken Gray along with him, then assuming that at some point Saber was defeated, would her soul have been absorbed into the Grail like all the other Servants or possessed Gray's body instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriulio View Post
    Dunno about spoiler-free ones, but the overwhelming majority agrees that the remake is superior. I've yet to see a negative review, but I'm holding black from saying it's an unanimous opinion.
    I have seen one negative review and it mostly boiled down to not liking the powercreep in the remake and things not being like the original.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    I've seen plenty of people who dislike it, for one reason or the other.

    The thing they seem to have in common is not being able to read it though.

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    Is there a reasoning behind the title "Melty Blood"?
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    Blood alludes to both vampirism and Sion/Zepia's relation of ancestry. Melty... uh, invokes imagery of melting chocolate to indicate how the blood looks appetizing to Sion? Alludes to heat because MB is a summer story? I don't know, tbh.

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    I'm sure there is a reason but its hidden behind layers and layers of Nasu English much like how Fate/Stay Night was.

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    Didn't he title it that just because it sounds kinda cool or something? I assumed it's the same thing with Melty Blood.

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    The first few minutes of this, followed by the three parts of that, and then CTRL+F'ing 'Crimson Moon' and 'Brunestud' here will give you relevant info. For ancient Notes-related info, see this. Additional context is in Tsukihime's True Ancestor infodumps, I guess.
    Wait is this the Tsuikihime prologue? A nasuverse guide I have said to watch it before starting the VN but I thought they meant the first 10 minutes or so of the anime and didn't get the point in watching it
    Either way thanks for the links, this looks exactly what I've been looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILurkNoMoar View Post
    If in a different timeline Waver had decided to participate in the 5th HGW like he had originally been considering and taken Gray along with him, then assuming that at some point Saber was defeated, would her soul have been absorbed into the Grail like all the other Servants or possessed Gray's body instead?
    When you have 2 lesser grails the closer one absorbs the soul.
    Therefore likely, it would depend on the pull of Gray's body as a container at that moment vs the pull of the lesser grail at that moment.
    In short, this would be a potential plot point the hypothetical author would use to drive the narrative in the direction they want.
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    So it's proximity and not quality/strength of the pull of the vessel that determines who gets the soul? Interesting...
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    Is there a reasoning behind the title "Melty Blood"?


    It's part of the engrish in the OP.
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    When you have 2 lesser grails the closer one absorbs the soul.
    Therefore likely, it would depend on the pull of Gray's body as a container at that moment vs the pull of the lesser grail at that moment.
    In short, this would be a potential plot point the hypothetical author would use to drive the narrative in the direction they want.
    But isn't Saber's soul only on loan to the grail in the first place, with her not being all the way dead? Her soul still needs to go back to Bevidere to die properly, so wouldn't it being hijacked by either Grey or the Grail fuck up the timeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattias View Post
    But isn't Saber's soul only on loan to the grail in the first place, with her not being all the way dead? Her soul still needs to go back to Bevidere to die properly, so wouldn't it being hijacked by either Grey or the Grail fuck up the timeline?
    In theory if Saber ended up accidentally hijacking Gray's body there wouldn't be a paradox since she'd just be stuck chilling in the modern day until she either died of old age, was exercised, or willingly gave up control of the body, then she would get pulled back in time to die properly or maybe get sent out to another HGW until she either won or gives up on retconning her reign. Granted the later two options of getting her out of Gray's body would likely depend on whether Gray's soul gets overridden or just pushed out of the driver's seat so to say while Saber's in control.

    Though Artoria getting stuck in Gray's meat suit might have interesting implications for the rest of the 5th HGW. She wouldn't be a Servant anymore and was technically defeated, so she might be out of the running and even if she wasn't I don't think she'd still be able to interact with the Grail like a normal Servant would need to in order to claim the Grail from my vague recollections of Rin's lore dumps in F/SN. Tho Kerei's enough of a shitter to see this situation and give her a ommand Seal along with Gil or Cu because this shit's the best entertainment he's had in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    When you have 2 lesser grails the closer one absorbs the soul.
    Therefore likely, it would depend on the pull of Gray's body as a container at that moment vs the pull of the lesser grail at that moment.
    In short, this would be a potential plot point the hypothetical author would use to drive the narrative in the direction they want.
    Sanda taking notes as we speak

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    It's likely he has long ago taken notes about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILurkNoMoar View Post
    In theory if Saber ended up accidentally hijacking Gray's body there wouldn't be a paradox since she'd just be stuck chilling in the modern day until she either died of old age, was exercised, or willingly gave up control of the body, then she would get pulled back in time to die properly or maybe get sent out to another HGW until she either won or gives up on retconning her reign. Granted the later two options of getting her out of Gray's body would likely depend on whether Gray's soul gets overridden or just pushed out of the driver's seat so to say while Saber's in control.

    Though Artoria getting stuck in Gray's meat suit might have interesting implications for the rest of the 5th HGW. She wouldn't be a Servant anymore and was technically defeated, so she might be out of the running and even if she wasn't I don't think she'd still be able to interact with the Grail like a normal Servant would need to in order to claim the Grail from my vague recollections of Rin's lore dumps in F/SN. Tho Kerei's enough of a shitter to see this situation and give her a ommand Seal along with Gil or Cu because this shit's the best entertainment he's had in years.
    Kirei would find Gray's whole situation and her village's hopes absolutely hilarious, especially if he learns how Magdalena tried to protect Gray by acting like a super believer.

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    However, if what Gilgamesh said mostly holds true, then she'd actually be able to wish on it for something other than incarnation.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILurkNoMoar View Post

    Though Artoria getting stuck in Gray's meat suit might have interesting implications for the rest of the 5th HGW. She wouldn't be a Servant anymore and was technically defeated, so she might be out of the running and even if she wasn't I don't think she'd still be able to interact with the Grail like a normal Servant would need to in order to claim the Grail from my vague recollections of Rin's lore dumps in F/SN. Tho Kerei's enough of a shitter to see this situation and give her a ommand Seal along with Gil or Cu because this shit's the best entertainment he's had in years.
    Iirc in F zero the grail gives itself to Kiritsugu on its own so the part about needing you servant to get you the grail cuz the grail is a ghost is probably just bull to stop 8th participants from highjacking the reward without any of the effort.

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    That is not indicative of how the Greater Grail is supposed to work, and in any case, by the time Kiritsugu and AM even spoke, the Lesser Grail was literally overflowing, meaning the ritual was very nearly complete.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Goredolf apparently knows. When Chaldea reaches the Wandering Sea and Holmes suggests opening the stone gate to ask the AoG mages for help, Goredolf chickens out saying that it's like there are multiples of the principal behind the door.

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    That doesn't really mean he knows what the principal did, just that he recognizes the same "aura" or whatever.
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