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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    Man I just want to ship them with couple therapy so they learn to respect each other and grow into an amiable marriage that may later evolve into love, not this petty thing of laying blame on either of them.
    I mean, couple therapy in movies at least seems to revolve a lot around "what did you see in him/her that made you want to marry him/her initially?", and boy that would be an awkard question wouldn't it

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    the thing is that none of us (dear god I hope not) are anything like her.

    she literally feels nothing about everything and anything. It’s only when she got brainwashed by Diarmuid to feel something that she did.

    so ironically if Kayneth tried to drug her or hypnotize into loving him then she’d be happy when you think about it.
    You're taking it a bit too far, I think. She was a product of her environment and upbringing, not a literal machine.
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    People here seem to underestimate how much even minorly abusive upbringings can fuck with you, I can vouch for weird emotions and what is wrong being normal to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    You're taking it a bit too far, I think. She was a product of her environment and upbringing, not a literal machine.
    Not every mental disorder is a product of abuse, you know. You can have a completely happy childhood and still end up completely fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    I thought that was only cause of Ciel?
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    Did Sola have a bad upbringing? I thought non heir children of mage families usually live relatively easy lives. She even received a decent(if basic) education in magecraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aAlouda View Post
    Did Sola have a bad upbringing? I thought non heir children of mage families usually live relatively easy lives. She even received a decent(if basic) education in magecraft.
    Not particularly, at least by mage standards. She wasn't treated like Ophelia or Tsubaki Kuruoka. That being said, she was still the spare and used as a marriage prize. Nonetheless, her issues weren't really related to that since she had a seemingly innate inability to feel emotional pain or pleasure.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    I mean, couple therapy in movies at least seems to revolve a lot around "what did you see in him/her that made you want to marry him/her initially?", and boy that would be an awkard question wouldn't it

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    You're taking it a bit too far, I think. She was a product of her environment and upbringing, not a literal machine.
    I-I mean you're just arguing with the literal text and point of the character then. She's just built that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Not particularly, at least by mage standards. She wasn't treated like Ophelia or Tsubaki Kuruoka. That being said, she was still the spare and used as a marriage prize. Nonetheless, her issues weren't really related to that since she had a seemingly innate inability to feel emotional pain or pleasure.
    what's worse, twisted love or being treated like a piece of furniture?
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    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    If Umineko is any indication it’s furniture that gets the twisted love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    what's worse, twisted love or being treated like a piece of furniture?
    I thought Ophelia was conditioned into believing the abuse/experimentation WAS love. Tsubaki definitely was.

    But to answer the question, I suppose with the former, you can at least pretend to have felt love. Still, neither is really better or worse. I only said what I said about Sola because she was already born unable to really feel anything, unless the Zero mats belie some early neglect that made her that way.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Ophelia definitely couldn't tell the difference between love and emotional abuse. The whole point of her Sunday spiel is that her parents not doing mage research on Sundays made it harder for her to pretend they cared.

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    Cool. Glad I didn't misremember that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    considering Case Files Adventures dipping its toes into chinese stuff. Might get an actual answer for that in the coming years.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Is FSN Cu's two NP's based on his skill or because of his lance? Like if Lancelot used Knight of Owner on the spear, could he use Cu's two NP's? Or is it something that only Cu can do with Gae Bolg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arete View Post
    Is FSN Cu's two NP's based on his skill or because of his lance? Like if Lancelot used Knight of Owner on the spear, could he use Cu's two NP's? Or is it something that only Cu can do with Gae Bolg?
    I think the causality-reversal is a technique Cu invented himself.

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    I don't think there's any cases of Lancelot even activating the NPs he's stolen so whether he can do that is unknown.

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    You need a true name at the very least, before any specific complications, Lancelot can't even speak. Maybe he can activate Clarent to 1/3 of its power because he can say 'Arthur'.

    I am reminded of Message's old jokes about Shinji stealing Ea and using it because anyone can use Ea because it doesn't have a name

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