The way I read it, it sounded like the physical bow and arrow set itself is a noble phantasm called Nine Lives, and the technique is a technique on the level of a noble phantasm, also called Nine Lives. But take that with the caveat that I'm not actually looking at the actual page right now so I could be misremembering something, I'll leave it to someone else to double check.Originally Posted by Ereus
I read the things a few minutes ago and the comparison used was 9 lives is like the 2 gae bolg techniques which are NPs. So Iunno. I also copy pasted the gilgamesh matrix from CCC which helps with the confusion.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
It seems to me that LoD would be similar to God Hand, but he probably has the original version of a 'stake producing' NP? Not sure though
I mean it's not really a point worth talking about. Sure there's some stuff Gil "doesn't" have, but CCC basically gives us the license to say that "if you can think of it, Gil either has it or has something that does the same thing". The only thing's that he might not know he has it.
Sword that amplifies? Check. Thing that makes stakes? Check. Thing that makes you go vamp? Check. Rank-based conceptual armor? Check. Revival shit? Check.
Like there's no real reason for him to not have this kind of shit, even if he doesn't have the specific legend itself. This hasn't ever really been a point worth talking about but people do it a lot.
Ehh I mean it depends on how you want to define function and form and how gil remarks on his weapons are closer to the 'origin'
I mean if you start simplifying things to a certain point he would had have something similar enough, I think there is CAUSE HE SAID HE DOES NOT HAVE A 'ASSET' WHEN TALKING BOUT GOD HAND.
I mean It gets to a point were it becomes pedantry.
I dislike putting things in gils vault which is why I dislike the tech bit in CCC, I mean look at my sig snarking bout gils vault, As I've said before the explanation doesnt even work now with like karna being 5000 BC.
Hell when they said that Babylonians have good technology at one point yet it seems in the singularity they are just like any old fantasy kingdom with magic.
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With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
Did Nasu ever said why he wanted to give to the Extra serie a sci-fi setting?
If we're at a point where it becomes pedantry then isn't the easiest option just to stop being pedantic and accept that no matter how much you might dislike it Gil has (for practical intents of similar effects) everything that humans have achieved, including things that are perhaps not exactly the same as but similar enough to the NPs of otherheroes that it's irrelevant?
Maybe but even that option infuriates me, as There are plenty of NP he should not have. Mostly conceptual ones based on feats.
Gils vault is just a stupid concept.
Also wasn't there a quote on babylon saying it had tech equivalent to modern day?
I didn't see much of that in babylon singularity (Also wouldn't that bring up the modern weapon argument?)
Last edited by Ereus; August 16th, 2017 at 11:39 AM.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
So... where does Scathach being immortal come from? Is it just a Nasuverse thing added for flavor?
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As far as I can tell by checking wikipedia.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
Why are you so fixated on him saying "asset"? It doesn't change anything (not to mention the fact that it's the subs saying asset, for all we know the JP could've used a different word).
But it does... because it's a magical anti-paradox system. If a legend is set before gil's legend but has to inherit stuff from him, that's a paradox, and it fixes it with magic stuff.As I've said before the explanation doesnt even work now with like karna being 5000 BC.
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In some cases she's said to have bee associated with the goddess of death, effectively being connected with Tír na nÓg, which was the 'otherworld', promising eternal youth and good health.
Look, if it's just you deciding you don't like something and insisting that makes it stupid then save us all the hassle by just not bringing it up since evidently you won't accept it. I, on the other hand, think that a realisation of the Platonic Theory of Ideal Forms is a fascinating concept.
Also, equivalent to is not the same as identical to. If babylonian magitech accomplishes all the same things as modern tech then it is equivalent to it even if it is voodoo mumbo jumbo. It doesn't mean anything because back in the days the world was literally more dangerous because the rules were different. The equivalent to modern weapons would do fuck all to most things. That's why heroes were necessary.
I mean you're actively confusing Gil's IRL storage closet filled with everything he could collect with the NP Gate of Babylon, which through crystallization of mystery is enhanced such that it always has everything even if it's a paradox. They functioned the same way but NP has more in it if it more exists.
You could instead perhaps read the actual legends? It's never outright stated but does seem to be implied in certain bits, and even if you don't take the reading with that interpretation there's the whole "became the Celtic goddess of death later on" thing, which translates just fine in the Nqsuverse to her having ascended beyond human comprehension and thus being immortal.
'K.
How 'bout the god killing part, then?
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Ah cause I know were to read the myth? And again, I think you're giving nasu too much credit with the platonic ideal of forms. I think it would've been referenced by name. This the franchise that said Phantom of the opera is 19th century when it is 20th century.
Last edited by Ereus; August 16th, 2017 at 12:23 PM.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
It's also possible Scáthach was originally a goddess instead of "just" a super-duper warrior and teacher, but don't quote me on that - the Celts aren't my expertise.
Wasn't the theory that nasu got inspired bout the scath stuff by SMT? since it links her with Skadi.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
Gods can die in Celtic myth and she's a goddess of death. I imagine you can figure it out from there.
Gimme a quote that she is a goddess of death?
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
Google it yourself, you lazy ass. I don't need to spoonfeed you everything.
Except I did, I could not find any exact quote and the wikipedia page on celtic gods is rather lacking in that a lot of them are red links.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
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