He can turn it on and off at will, and its use doesn't seem to have such a downside.Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30
He can turn it on and off at will, and its use doesn't seem to have such a downside.
Besides, I'm pretty sure Ophelia's passiveness is a personality thing, not a side effect of the Mystic Eyes of Delay. Her Mystic Eyes already have too many downsides even without that.
Yeah, I saw part of her character arc on LB2 as that of the character that needs to take a step forward but is too afraid for it. The problem is that when she finally took that step (on the battle against Surtr) she die after instead of showing us how she could advance on her story. But that's part of the A Team motif, I guess, that they didn't get to be the MC of FGO
What are the downsides of the eye?
Considering how long she has been experimented on and how much influence the Mystic Eyes had on her life, why couldn't it be both, and both sort of feed into each other?
She sees multiple possibilities of the future and can choose one of them not to happen, but only one, so that's pretty easy to counter.
She can't, for example, stop people from clearing an obstacle that allows more than one attempt, since she can prevent the future where they clear it on the first try but can't prevent the future where they clear it on the second.
In the final battle against her, she stops the worst case scenario of "Brynhildr wins against her Saber, killing him", but Bryn already knew Ophelia would do that, so she burned herself to death to go unobstructed with the second worst case scenario of "Brynhildr ties against her Saber, killing him".SurtrSigurd
Also, in the hypothetic scenario that she took off her eyepatch inside the Coffin, she still wouldn't be able to survive Lev's explosion because there's a fuckton of possibilities where she dies and barely any where she lives.
That sounds really weak.
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Ophelia can use it pretty competently until the moment the moment we know how it works, but yes, once the trick is revealed it straight up sucks.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the most important downside. Since this Mystic Eye was made by a Norse mage family doing Sixth Imaginary Element (Devil) Evocation research, the future sight can sometimes connects her to Surtr for a chat and the eye works as an unavoidable catalyst for Surtr's summon. Even when Ophelia used a proper catalyst to summon Sigurd, she still had her eye in her socket, so Surtr came inside her Sigurd's body. She's kinda doomed the moment she tries to summon a Servant, since she's physically unable to get anyone without Surtr in it.
That must've made Wodime's clear with her pretty awkward.
Unless just he did the summoning.
This might be a stupid question, but I've been replaying Hollow Ataraxia (the only things left are the Eclipse scenes) and feel as though I can't possibly refrain from asking something that has been on my mind ever since I first read it, years ago:
Who the hell wrote Rin's Eclipse scene?
It is miles beyond any sex scene in any Type-Moon work, ever. It feels humane, heartwarming AND genuinely believable. It is the only H-scene in their entire oeuvre that doesn't feel as though it was written by someone who has never had sex before, and while the whole "girl is shy because she secretly thinks she is disgusting" thing feels a bit cliché, the payoff from it is handled so earnestly that one can't help but smile.
Was it Nasu? Because if he can write sex scenes like this, I will never forgive him for forcing me to suffer through those things from the original VN (I can't bring myself to skip anything, ever).
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So I remember people saying she didnt have free will due to the future sight or was that bull? like she hated sundays due to it or was that more just normal magi stuff
Hmm would the eye connect her to panhuman surtr in normal circumstances
She hates Sundays because it's the one day on the week she gets to interact with her parents as people instead of as magi and that makes it harder for her to convince herself that she and her parents love each other. Like, she internalized that it's okay for her to be a guinea pig because because her parents are great and respectable mages doing what any respectable mage would, but on the one day they're not being mages, the farce falls apart and Ophelia sorta has to confront the facts that she hates her life until it's Monday again and business is back as usual.
Then where the hell did i hear her future sight robbed her of free will, I remembers omeone say they reason she hates sunday is because they just leave her alone that day so she has no orders to move around so just rots in her will
No idea. She is indeed passive to a terribly unhealthy degree (at least until the last moments of her life) but that's not a side effect of her eyes. She just is like that for pretty much the same reasons Mash was at first, which why she cares so much about her.
really, from what i remember seeing it from that scene, Bryhn needed to go extremely beyond her limits to break through the powers of her eye and it was more a situation of Bryhn made all possibilities become one. because she wanted to kill Sigurd so bad because of their shared destiny, so there was only 1 possible outcome possible and that caused her eye to not activate
Probably here:
Doesn't explicitly say that she had no free will because of her future sight, but I could understand how one would read it that way. That's certainly how I first interpreted it.
Having future sight robbing one of their free will is also kind of a repeating theme in Type Moon, so it's not really an unreasonable assumption to make in any case. From what Comun said it doesn't seem to be the case here, though.
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Thing is, even if the Mystic Eyes deprive her of only any independent volition, it could be said that she felt herself deprived of free will since she could see the future, which combined with her parents' experimentation could have the effect of making her naturally passive. I don't think it's possible to separate natural passiveness from any Mystic Eyes related angst.
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I don't think we've seen anything to indicate he's dead. We do know he didn't participate in the HGW (and thus never got involved with Chaldea?) so his previous cause of death certainly didn't happen again.
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I ask because whenever Olgamarie and Trisha mention him, it seems like he's either dead or functionally dead to Olgamarie.
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