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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arete View Post
    Does Altera have a super mode like the others then? Or is that her Velber mode?

    Is there any connection to the three Japanese regalia, like is it saying that they work in a similar way?



    As for a different topic or rather just headcannon speculation, I was thinking about how Archer Napoleon is a bit the same as Devils, being the embodiment of wishes. And it just so happens that Ophelia, the one he is responding to, has an eye that uses the Sixth Imaginary Element, the things Devils are made of. Might it be then that Napoleon is actually a 'good' devil of sorts and that that's the reason we didn't get the 'proper' Napoleon? I suspect her eye is what made her connect to Sutr, the devil of another culture as well, and made him want to fulfil Ophelia's wishes, even if in a twisted way (as per the course of most Devils that've shown up). Or do I have it completely wrong?
    If that was the case they could've just straight up used Siegfried who is basically a holy grail person too.

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    Nothingness (無, Mu?)In magecraft, it is defined as that "which is not possible, but materializes", contrasting Hollow which is defined as that "which is possible but not in the physical plane". It has a different meaning than the "nothing" of physics and math.

    Has Nothingness as defined in CM3 ever appeared in any capacity? (or has Type Moon Wiki probably missed something and it has to do with Demon hours?)

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    Ether Clumps maybe?

    In that case, it'll be touched upon whenever Nasu decides to do something with the First Magic.

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    If it already appeared somewhere, it did without us being explicitly told that’s what it was. Btw, is this entry machine translated? It kinda feels like it is with how the wording seems to intentionally avoid a proper parallel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarfDyedShadow View Post
    Nothingness (無, Mu?)In magecraft, it is defined as that "which is not possible, but materializes", contrasting Hollow which is defined as that "which is possible but not in the physical plane". It has a different meaning than the "nothing" of physics and math.

    Has Nothingness as defined in CM3 ever appeared in any capacity? (or has Type Moon Wiki probably missed something and it has to do with Demon hours?)


    Something that should not exist, yet does.

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    Btw, is this entry machine translated? It kinda feels like it is with how the wording seems to intentionally avoid a proper parallel.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I'm personally more partial to Prime Minister because it better accentuates how modern of a word (国家)元首 is, and ties more clearly to U-Olga's stated goal of unifying Earth as a single nation under her possession, assumedly with most of the implications of how a modern nation functions, again, due her picking 20th century word when dozens of more ancient-sounding options are available. Though sovereign can be considered more accurate, in a drier, rawer sense.
    Right so it is a more modern word. When is the term typically used in the modern day?

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    If you’re interested in True Devils, you should read the “Holmes/EXTRA” fantheory document, which Comun actually partially wrote. https://docs.google.com/document/u/0...LlEYdm2nWiNhk/
    Yeah I've already read that document, or at least the part on devils. I see they updated it like promised but there doesn't seem to be anything new in that part. And it doesn't say anything on Napoleon.

    Also it's a little hard to trust it on everything when they do get some things wrong or skip out key bits of data, even in that area, so I don't know how much I can really trust it. It does do a good job on sourcing though. It's nice to know that people will actually read something of that length though as my own theories tend to be rather long.

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    If that was the case they could've just straight up used Siegfried who is basically a holy grail person too.
    Oh? Is Siegfried a fictionalised character as well? I suppose that makes sense then for the whole Sigurd/Siegfried problem.

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    Nope, Siegfried was probably real. Brynhildr smelled Kriemhild's scent from Altera, and the Einzberns got the Rhinegold.

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    I dont think they have a clue what the deal with sigurd and siegfried is tbh

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    Pretty sure Fafnir being a curse that turns the greediest person of (Europe?) into a dragon is the explanation as to how both of them killed 'Fafnir'.

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    Fafnir is more a phenomenon than a single being that manifests in particularly greedy individuals in the Northern European texture. I've heard people compare it to TATARI.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    So according to Helena hekate has authority over earth sea and sky, can we take this as a solid statement?


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    Hecate is pretty clearly defined as the goddess of magic when Circe talks about her, so I'd put that down as a maybe.
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    Hecate also has the whole three-faces thing

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    It mentions in Solomon's mats that the only one to gain enlightenment was the 'Messiah'. Wouldn't the 'messiah' be Jesus? And wasn't it Buddha who gained enlightenment? Did he get something else then? It seems more like it's talking about Jesus since he's connected to Solomon.

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    Wasn't David the original Messiah, though?

    Also, Enlightenment is a complicated term and in this case probably refers to Judeo-Christian apotheosis as opposed to nirvāna.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    Nasu has used buddhist terms when talking bout what happen to romani/solomon tho

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    I thought Solomon's mats were comparing and contrasting the 'finality' he reached by completing his mission of returning the One Ring and Buddha's 'finality' = enlightenment

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    Wasn't David the original Messiah, though?

    Also, Enlightenment is a complicated term and in this case probably refers to Judeo-Christian apotheosis as opposed to nirvāna.
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    The literal translation of the Hebrew word mashiach (המשיח‎, messiah), is 'anointed', which refers to a ritual of consecrating someone or something by putting holy oil upon it. It is used throughout the Hebrew Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and objects; for example, kings, priests and prophets, the altar in the Temple, vessels, unleavened bread, and even a non-Jewish king (Cyrus the Great).[19]

    In Jewish eschatology, the term came to refer to a future Jewish king from the Davidic line, who will be "anointed" with holy anointing oil, to be king of God's kingdom, and rule the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. In Judaism, the Messiah is not considered to be God or a pre-existent divine Son of God. He is considered to be a great political leader that has descended from King David, hence why he is referred to as Messiah ben David, 'Messiah, son of David'. In Judaism, the messiah is considered to be a great, charismatic leader that is well oriented with the laws that are followed in Judaism.[20] He will be the one who will not "judge by what his eyes see" or "decide by what his ears hear."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    I thought Solomon's mats were comparing and contrasting the 'finality' he reached by completing his mission of returning the One Ring and Buddha's 'finality' = enlightenment
    They both do have a sense of removal from existence and extinguishing one's own flame.

    I guess that means Roman isn't truly destroyed? That, or it was just an imperfect comparison.

    Also, thanks.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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