Questions, questions and more questions (READ THE OP FOR ANSWERS)

[Lily Emilio]

Is it even science when it's just magitech using circuits and soul stuff? since that seems to be the future in every timeline.

Especially when beasts use spiritrons like goetia

Magi using spiritrons doesn't mean science cannot also use spiritrons. The whole point of science messing with magecraft is that it can and will eventually capable of replicating everything magecraft (and even magic) can do, making magecraft no longer needed. The magecraft that allows you to talk to your buddy miles away is no longer needed because the telephone is invented. Even worse, the telephone allows everyone with it to do that, while to use the telephone magecraft one needs to be a magi.

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Or to give another example. In SMT the genius Stephen Hawking invented the COMPs that allows any and everyone with it to be able to summon and control demons as will. Demon summoners, summoning magic and the likes are no longer required. It would be like in a future Fate works, some smartass creates a phone app that allows any and everyone with the app installed to be able to summon a Servant. To the trash bin with all that classic holy grail and summoning circles and the likes. And this is very possible, because Chaldea is pretty much half way there.

[fumei]

In mahoyo, it's mentioned that there are various ways to load magical energy into a spell formula in order to use it, and Aoko mentions three examples: 出す, 撃つ, and 流す. Gandr seems like an obvious example of the second one, since it shoots out, but what are examples of the other two? Or have I completely misinterpreted the meaning of this line?

[You]

In mahoyo, it's mentioned that there are various ways to load magical energy into a spell formula in order to use it, and Aoko mentions three examples: 出す, 撃つ, and 流す. Gandr seems like an obvious example of the second one, since it shoots out, but what are examples of the other two? Or have I completely misinterpreted the meaning of this line?

interested.
What chapter was this?

[AAM1232]

For the first example:
Chapter 5b (Aoko vs Flat Snark) for this line: 中空に浮かぶ第三層は臨界に達した魔力を撃ち出す銃口であり、射角を調整する照星しょうせいだ。

Chapter 12 (Aoko vs Touko) has these mentions:

放電は彼女自身をも許さない。
その奇跡は世界を壊すと。
自らの保身の為、世界自身が彼女の抹殺に動き出す。

「いま静希君の時間は青子に使われているから。
　それが戻されるまで思い出す事はないわ」

三枚の水晶膜は刻まれたルーンを一千万規模に膨張させる。
魔弾による相殺など許さない。
青子の出力が橙子を遥かに上回るものだとしても、この巨石はさらに数倍。

『魔力を放出する』だけの青子の魔術特性では、この呪いを防ぐ事も躱す事も出来はしない……！

三枚の水晶膜は刻まれたルーンを一千万規模に膨張させる。
魔弾による相殺など許さない。
青子の出力が橙子を遥かに上回るものだとしても、この巨石はさらに数倍。

『魔力を放出する』だけの青子の魔術特性では、この呪いを防ぐ事も躱す事も出来はしない……！

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Aoko vs Flat Snark (Chapter 5b) also has this for the third example:

『ぐ、つぅーーー！』

激流する体内魔力。
分解寸前の魔術回路。
魔術をカタチにした刻印は皮膚や肉のみならず、骨の髄ずい、骨の芯しんまでその文字を刻んでいく。

「はーーーいっっ、つぅ…………！」

[AmADo VII]

I can only think of snap, crack and shoot when you talk about how Aoko uses mana.

[You]

Thank you for the effort.
None of those has to do with loading magical energy into a formula though.

The first one is about firing the magical energy from the 3 layered magic circle in the air.
The second and third aren't even about magical energy. The fourth is talking about aoko's sorcery trait being pretty much prana burst.

[AAM1232]

I didn't expect much tbh, but no problem. Might have been mentioned elsewhere.

[AAM1232]

Thank you for the effort.
None of those has to do with loading magical energy into a formula though.

The first one is about firing the magical energy from the 3 layered magic circle in the air.
The second and third aren't even about magical energy. The fourth is talking about aoko's sorcery trait being pretty much prana burst.

After asking around, got this from Chapter 3:

体内で生成した魔力を、各自それぞれの方式で流しこめばいい。たいていは魔術師は転移方式だ。有線にしろ無 線にしろ、式に魔力を注げばいい。“出す”“撃つ”“流す”と色々あるけど、私の場合はなんていうか、こう 自分の手足で弾く感じ……！「燃えろ！」

[AmADo VII]

is healing example of flowing/流す a mana?

[fumei]

interested.
What chapter was this?

Chapter 3

「―――

セット

接続

」振り向いて敵を視界に収め、片手を振りかぶる。
腕は意志の代行だ。
私はまだ未熟だから、

こえ

発音

と

どうさ

手足

を使わないと魔術は働いてくれない。


魔術式は予め公園に刻まれている。
私がするコトは、その式に火をくべるだけ。
体内で生成した魔力を、各自それぞれの方式で流しこめばいい。


たいていは魔術師は転移方式だ。有線にしろ無線にしろ、式に魔力を

そそ

注

げばいい。
“出す”“撃つ”“流す”と色々あるけど、私の場合はなんていうか、こう―――自分の手足で

はじ

弾

く感じ……！

[AmADo VII]

Emiya's tracing = 出す

mystic code buffs in FGO = 流す

[fumei]

is healing example of flowing/流す a mana?

mystic code buffs in FGO = 流す

I'd say both of these make sense tbh, yeah.

What's your thinking for "Emiya's tracing = 出す" though? That you just release the energy or whatever to produce the projections? I guess that would imply a more personal range than 撃つ, then?

[Comun]

Cornelius Alba's stuff sounds like 出す to me.

[Herod]

Maybe it's just a personal thing? I don't think every way to load magical energy is one of these three.

[fumei]

Maybe it's just a personal thing? I don't think all the ways to load magical energy is one of these three.

They're not, she's mentioning some examples, but I'm just trying to link those to actual spells or types of magic to better understand which is which.

[AmADo VII]

出す is pretty general in term so, it is pretty much what mages do in magecraft.

[Bookworm Luke]

In mahoyo, it's mentioned that there are various ways to load magical energy into a spell formula in order to use it, and Aoko mentions three examples: 出す, 撃つ, and 流す. Gandr seems like an obvious example of the second one, since it shoots out, but what are examples of the other two? Or have I completely misinterpreted the meaning of this line?

I don't think these are actually referring to anything specific. Aoko is saying everyone has her own way of spellcasting, as long as you get it done, it's fine. Circuits are not even always necessary.
It's like how Shirou was visualizing the hammer of a gun slamming down. Aoko was imagining it coming out of her hands and feet.

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Maybe it's just a personal thing? I don't think every way to load magical energy is one of these three.

Yes, this is what I am getting from the passage as well.
She's just listing some examples.
I also found the scene. She proceeded to shoot a fireball from her hand like a barbarian without going through anything elaborate as she described.

[Bookworm Luke]

I found Shirou's analogy here:
https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%2099/
Just before he fired the projection spell.

体内で生成した魔力を、各自それぞれの方式で流しこめばいい。

It's also in the Mahoyo part you posted. Aoko even says every magus injects mana into her spells in her own way.

[You]

After asking around, got this from Chapter 3:

Chapter 3

cool that adds an extra dimension to the verbs used when someone's spellcasting.

[Reign]

Do we know where the Animuspheres are from? Like, ancestrally?

Edit: Trisha's Imaginary Numbers space pocket had Hebrew writing around it in the anime, and she's from an Animusphere branch family, so Israel?
https://imgur.com/Unf5WKM